Amazing how simple the explanation is, isn't it?
Yeah, but none of us is wearing the aluminum-foil helmets.....
Amazing how simple the explanation is, isn't it?
Lee, if you see this in the mess that this thread has become, do you know if there has been any thoughts of bringing back the Club due to "overwhelming fan response" like with Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular and Captain EO. And were the props placed into D Street as a means of trying to placate people, save money, or make the Club's return more difficult?Ditto.
And I should point out, in every plan, up to the final one, had the AC remaining. It wasn't until they got antsy at the end that they decided to throw out the baby with the bathwater.
Lee, if you see this in the mess that this thread has become, do you know if there has been any thoughts of bringing back the Club due to "overwhelming fan response" like with Aladdin: A Musical Spectacular and Captain EO. And were the props placed into D Street as a means of trying to placate people, save money, or make the Club's return more difficult?
On my first trip to DTD, an alcohal induced tourist urinated on our car. (for what it's worth)
I think JT gets off on all the bickering. He has no substance and if everyone would just ignore his rants and mindless posts, he would get bored and leave.
One of these days the truth will be revealed. Jt is a 13-year old boy in Dubuque, Iowa.
Oddly enough, he's also claimed to live overseas and to be a WDW local.
Oddly enough, he's also claimed to live overseas and to be a WDW local.
Truth is so subjective in the world of neo-science. We never let facts hinder us from saving you from yourself. It's a mostly thankless job but sooner or later we will buy your gratitude. Or else. :xmas:
The only thing that could really bring it back (IN MY OPINON) would be a dedicated fan site/facebook page (numbering in the hundreds of thousands), and holding a few in memorial special events where you rented out a venue on disney property and had people renact the show.
That would be the only thing IN MY OPINON that would truly get upper management to notice.
BTW, talk of theoretical 20-year-old DUI epidemics aside, has anyone else actually seen the replacements for Celebrate Tonight?
Not just the living statues--cool, I guess, in a creepy kind of way, though certainly nothing that drives revenue. They've also gone back to the idea of live music acts performing in front of the empty clubs. So far I've seen:
Honestly, they make Celebrate Tonight look like Pirates of the Caribbean in comparison. My pet theory is that the new head of Downtown Disney entertainment was secretly a PI fan and is trying to push DTD toward rock bottom faster so TDO is forced to reopen a couple clubs. Because the only alternative I can come up with is that the woman is completely lacking in both business sense and musical taste.
- a middle-age guy with a guitar doing adult contemporary songs--kind of thing you see in any subway in America;
- two middle-age guys in matching Hawaiian shirts butchering Jimmy Buffet's greatest hits;
- an overdressed woman and a guy who plays a KEYBOARD GUITAR (!) basically doing a set from a wedding in 1985.
- two middle-age guys in matching Hawaiian shirts butchering Jimmy Buffet's greatest hits;
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Of all of the grievances and complaints I've heard about TDO, this grinds my gears the most. :fork:
The only way I see it coming back and being profitable would be in a dinner show format similar to Hoop or Spirit of Aloha.Sorry, but I have to completely disagree. Things like that would just feed the meme apparently popular among higher-management types that the AdvClub fanbase was a just a couple dozen socially retarded fanbois and fangirls who treated the Club like Rocky Horror but didn't drink.
And again, the AdvClub does not work as a stand-alone venue. The capacity just isn't there. The only way I see it returning in any form--and we're talking miniscule odds--is if TDO realizes they once again need a nightlife district, and decide to include a new, stripped down version of the Club as a way of priming early ticket sales.
Sorry, but I have to completely disagree. Things like that would just feed the meme apparently popular among higher-management types that the AdvClub fanbase was a just a couple dozen socially retarded fanbois and fangirls who treated the Club like Rocky Horror but didn't drink.
And again, the AdvClub does not work as a stand-alone venue. The capacity just isn't there. The only way I see it returning in any form--and we're talking miniscule odds--is if TDO realizes they once again need a nightlife district, and decide to include a new, stripped down version of the Club as a way of priming early ticket sales.
One concept I had, which WDI is welcome to use, was to recreate a series of those one of a kind, hole in the wall, mom and pop restaurants from around the country. Think diners, drive ins and dives at WDW.What if the Imagineers got in on the act of the reimaging of Downtown Disney? I'm talking the mother-of-all-themed-bar-areas.
Possibilities include:
Mos Eisley Cantina (Star Wars)
Tortuga (Pirate of the Caribbean)
Okay when I started typing I expected my list to be much longer. Fail. Still though...
Oddly enough, he's also claimed to live overseas and to be a WDW local.
Maybe he lives in the German Pavilion.
I thought he lived in Arizona
lol this is funny because you have no facts.
Sorry, but I have to completely disagree. Things like that would just feed the meme apparently popular among higher-management types that the AdvClub fanbase was a just a couple dozen socially retarded fanbois and fangirls who treated the Club like Rocky Horror but didn't drink.
And again, the AdvClub does not work as a stand-alone venue. The capacity just isn't there. The only way I see it returning in any form--and we're talking miniscule odds--is if TDO realizes they once again need a nightlife district, and decide to include a new, stripped down version of the Club as a way of priming early ticket sales.
BTW, talk of theoretical 20-year-old DUI epidemics aside, has anyone else actually seen the replacements for Celebrate Tonight?
Not just the living statues--cool, I guess, in a creepy kind of way, though certainly nothing that drives revenue. They've also gone back to the idea of live music acts performing in front of the empty clubs. So far I've seen:
Honestly, they make Celebrate Tonight look like Pirates of the Caribbean in comparison. My pet theory is that the new head of Downtown Disney entertainment was secretly a PI fan and is trying to push DTD toward rock bottom faster so TDO is forced to reopen a couple clubs. Because the only alternative I can come up with is that the woman is completely lacking in both business sense and musical taste.
- a middle-age guy with a guitar doing adult contemporary songs--kind of thing you see in any subway in America;
- two middle-age guys in matching Hawaiian shirts butchering Jimmy Buffet's greatest hits;
- an overdressed woman and a guy who plays a KEYBOARD GUITAR (!) basically doing a set from a wedding in 1985.
What if the Imagineers got in on the act of the reimaging of Downtown Disney? I'm talking the mother-of-all-themed-bar-areas.
Possibilities include:
Mos Eisley Cantina (Star Wars)
Tortuga (Pirate of the Caribbean)
Okay when I started typing I expected my list to be much longer. Fail. Still though...
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