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Changes at DTD
- Thread starter ImaYoyo
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Or both. Don't leave that option off the table....
jt04
Well-Known Member
Oh yeah, it is definitely working. :drevil:
rooneymouse
Member
I think JT gets off on all the bickering. He has no substance and if everyone would just ignore his rants and mindless posts, he would get bored and leave. We can only hope.
jt04
Well-Known Member
I think JT gets off on all the bickering. He has no substance and if everyone would just ignore his rants and mindless posts, he would get bored and leave. We can only hope.
I create more traffic and therefore earn my keep. You?
71jason
Well-Known Member
I disagree. The move would have been dumb even in boom times. You simply were not going to find 6 or 8 "Sand Lake Road"-like restaurants to move into PI. The demographics just don't support it. If they did, HoB, Bongos and Pucks would have done gang-busters all along and there would have been no need to tear down the turnstiles at PI to increase traffic to the West Side. Keep in mind, those "grown-up" restaurants were having trouble even when PI was pulling sizable adult crowds to the area.
Even the back-up plan of of a "Schussel Restaurant Row" seems dubious. T-Rex cannibalized crowds from RFC. Put in "Winter Wonderland," "Motorcycle Cafe" and "Thinly Disguised Harry Potter Rip-Off", they would just cannibalize crowds from T-Rex.
Management (I've heard Kevin Lansberry specifically) misjudged the diffrences between Anaheim and Orlando. What works there will not necessarily work here. At the same time, they had no idea of the loyal following the clubs, in particular one Club, had among hard-core Disney fans.
I still think Disney blows it almost every time they concede control to an outside vendor; at least in their "long term thinking" phase (1955-94ish). Sadly, recently, outside companies have been able to exceed current Disney quality on occasion.
Master Gracey
Well-Known Member
Here JT, a nickels worth of free advice. . .
Though I think this message has come too late. I believe you have found a way to dig through the Earth and continue up into the Stratosphere!
Ingrate.
Ingrate? What have you provided on this thread that I (or anyone else for that matter) have to be grateful for: Unfounded conspiracy theories, refusal to back up these theories with any proof and/or evidence and long winded "I'm smarter than everyone else" rants? These items, I'm certain we can all live without!
Some days you eat the mouse.
Some days the mouse eats you.
But never give into the mouse without a fight!
Some days the mouse eats you.
But never give into the mouse without a fight!
KUNGALOOSH!
OFTeric
Well-Known Member
You are right, but if you remember to when the plan was first proposed which was a bit before Kevin held the reigns to DTD, it was all about chic clubs, not restaurants. The whole idea was that there had to be a product differentiator between Westside, PI and Market Place.
Astute observation. Anaheim locals treat the Disneyland Resort like going to the shopping mall. It's not unusual to just hop in the car and head over there for dinner and drinks and to watch the fireworks on a Friday night. On the otherhand, Pleasure Island's usefulness was from it being the only venue on property for adults to blow off steam with no children around. Further, since most WDW guests are vacationing on an extended visit, they are not going to be interested in restaurants and eateries they can find at their local shopping mall (RFC) - they are paying a premium for unique experiences (AC, CW).
wizards8507
Active Member
Agree with everything except for that last bit. Rainforest Cafe has hour long waits routinely.
jt04
Well-Known Member
You obviously fail to grasp all that is being done for you by those who know better. :wave:
Well, that's a whole different discussion, but that's because DDP killed eating in the parks.
KungalooshAL
Member
How much life does Planet Hollywood have left ???
OFTeric
Well-Known Member
It has been keeping the brand alive. Thanks to the licensing deal in Vegas the brand won't die in the event that the Orlando location closes.
I highly doubt that it will/would close anytime in the near future. It still manages to seat guests and turn tables.
KungalooshAL
Member
Actually, a $15 hambuger probably looks better not than a $10 hamburger did 15 years ago since we are now in such lean times.
71jason
Well-Known Member
They seem to make a LOT of money off of tour groups--Brazilian, high school marching band, what-have-you. I assume some sort of package deal is offered. It probably also benefits from being the only truly family-friendly restaurant west of Marketplace in terms of ambiance and price.
Master Gracey
Well-Known Member
It just so happens that I have always looked upon authority with contempt. Thankfully, you are not a threat!
Some days you eat the mouse.
Some days the mouse eats you.
But never give into the mouse without a fight!
Some days the mouse eats you.
But never give into the mouse without a fight!
KUNGALOOSH!
jt04
Well-Known Member
Well that is certainly true.
OK, gotta log out for the night. There is a "Dog" marathon on A&E tonight. :sohappy:
