Casey Jr. Being "Reassessed"

ExtinctJenn

ExtinctJenn

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edwardtc said:
Everything is relative. You would need to see Cars Land and the completed FLE to come up with your own, personal opinion as to which is more impressive....to you.
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I wish I could multi-quote properly but since I can't I'm going to direct my comment to this and the other posts in response to mine. LOL! :)

What I should've said (and didn't so it's my bad) is that I was comparing Cars Land to the FLE and everything else going on at WDW. So for example, yes DL has a new Cars Land but WDW is about to have a whole new Fantasyland (it's so beyond just an expansion to me) and coming soon Avatar Land, etc. Relatively speaking, as a whole, there is a lot of impressive wonderful stuff happening at WDW. Comparing Cars Land using only what's opened so far is where the relativity broke down for me. :)
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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olinecoach61 said:
Not every ride needs to be designed For everyone. My three year old won't be riding space mountain, does that mean they shouldn't have built it? I love space mountain. Will I play in the Casey jr? No but I'm sure my daughter will. It's about having a balance for everybody.
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<sarcasm>Well of course, because the thing I've always said when visiting MK is there just isn't enough for little kids to do </sarcasm>
 
ChrisFL

ChrisFL

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olinecoach61 said:
So are you saying there aren't enough attractions for adults?
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I would say ther aren't enough new attractions to keep adults, with or without kids interested. We're getting ONE omnimover ride out of this whole expansion until the mine train finally opens in 2014.

I mean kids aren't old enough to remember the fact that MK hasn't had a new e-ticket ride in 20 years
 
olinecoach61

olinecoach61

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ChrisFL said:
I would say ther aren't enough new attractions to keep adults, with or without kids interested. We're getting ONE omnimover ride out of this whole expansion until the mine train finally opens in 2014.

I mean kids aren't old enough to remember the fact that MK hasn't had a new e-ticket ride in 20 years
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Fair enough, I hope the mine train hits it big!
 
sshindel

sshindel

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ChrisFL said:
I would say ther aren't enough new attractions to keep adults, with or without kids interested. We're getting ONE omnimover ride out of this whole expansion until the mine train finally opens in 2014.

I mean kids aren't old enough to remember the fact that MK hasn't had a new e-ticket ride in 20 years
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True, the MK has not had a new e-ticket ride in 20 years, but they have added 1 full new park (and a second park 22 years ago) and multiple e-ticket rides to their 3 supporting parks in the past 20 years. They just have not focused on the MK as much as it needed the least added to it. DCA got Carsland because it was sorely needed to keep that park from failing. MK is not in similar circumstances. In fact, if Disney decided to go crazy and announce 5 new e-ticket rides, I think you could make a strong case that they would be better served in the other WDW parks much more than in MK ( I think given infinite space and money I'd put 2 in EPCOT, 2 in DHS, and 1 in DAK).

And just curious as to why you discount the mine train just because it opens later in the process? It is still a new ride, and part of the expansion, just slated to open later.
 
Taylor

Taylor

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ChrisFL said:
I would say ther aren't enough new attractions to keep adults, with or without kids interested. We're getting ONE omnimover ride out of this whole expansion until the mine train finally opens in 2014.

I mean kids aren't old enough to remember the fact that MK hasn't had a new e-ticket ride in 20 years
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I don't think MK Needs another e ticket. What I think sets MK apart from the rest of WDW is that most attractions you can take a whole family on and that makes MK my favorite park
 
benji

benji

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Between Dumbo's rug burns and Casey getting beat up by kids, I'm not looking forward to the fantasyland expansion. Cheap quality and planning on the imagineers part. Disney is loosing their touch. And by the way the restaurant beepers are stupid and inside of the Dumbo tent looks like crap. Thanks for letting me vent...
 
danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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benji said:
Between Dumbo's rug burns and Casey getting beat up by kids, I'm not looking forward to the fantasyland expansion. Cheap quality and planning on the imagineers part. Disney is loosing their touch. And by the way the restaurant beepers are stupid and inside of the Dumbo tent looks like crap. Thanks for letting me vent...
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Why do you feel the beepers are stupid?
 
bunnyman

bunnyman

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benji said:
Between Dumbo's rug burns and Casey getting beat up by kids, I'm not looking forward to the fantasyland expansion. Cheap quality and planning on the imagineers part. Disney is loosing their touch. And by the way the restaurant beepers are stupid and inside of the Dumbo tent looks like crap. Thanks for letting me vent...
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Hey, things have always happened. If you look back in history, they had to rush the opening of Disneyland so fast the asphalt didn't have time to set up and women's heels were sinking. When they opened WDW, they had to rely on parking lot trams to bring guests from the parking lot all the way to the entrance, and the engines kept having problems having to go upgrade. Throughout time there have always been glitches that pop up with new rides/exhibits.
 
threeyoda

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bunnyman said:
Hey, things have always happened. If you look back in history, they had to rush the opening of Disneyland so fast the asphalt didn't have time to set up and women's heels were sinking. When they opened WDW, they had to rely on parking lot trams to bring guests from the parking lot all the way to the entrance, and the engines kept having problems having to go upgrade. Throughout time there have always been glitches that pop up with new rides/exhibits.
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Disneyland opened with half the park unfinished. Parts were unpaved, piles of lumber sat everywhere.
 
WDW1974

WDW1974

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IlikeDW said:
trs518 posted this link over in the Eddie Sotto thread.

http://land.allears.net/blogs/jackspence/2012/06/what_would_walt_do_1.html

it should be mandatory reading for Doom and Gloomers as well as pixie dusters, might be enlightening for both.
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I don't know this Jack Spence character. But I don't think he said anything that so many others haven't said. I do think he was trying to make a correlation between Walt making mistakes (while trying to do the impossible, I might add) to people criticizing Disney management for what it does today. I think that's the whole problem with his column because I do agree with him that you can't know what a man who has been dead longer than most of us have been alive (even this timeless Spirit) would do. However, there are folks who have a much better idea (like his family, close friends, some folks at the company or still alive etc). BUT ... a bigger problem is when people at the company decide to put aside the basics ... the keys ... that Disney followed long after Walt was frozen and buried in a secret underground bunker 40 stories below Cindy's Castle!
 
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IlikeDW

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WDW1974 said:
I don't know this Jack Spence character. But I don't think he said anything that so many others haven't said. I do think he was trying to make a correlation between Walt making mistakes (while trying to do the impossible, I might add) to people criticizing Disney management for what it does today. I think that's the whole problem with his column because I do agree with him that you can't know what a man who has been dead longer than most of us have been alive (even this timeless Spirit) would do. However, there are folks who have a much better idea (like his family, close friends, some folks at the company or still alive etc). BUT ... a bigger problem is when people at the company decide to put aside the basics ... the keys ... that Disney followed long after Walt was frozen and buried in a secret underground bunker 40 stories below Cindy's Castle!
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I was not trying to change anyone's mind just pointing out not everything in the past was perfect. My point of reference is different since my first visit was in 2006 so I can not draw a comparison to anything before that. I have since been to Disneyland and am going again this year over WDW since little has changed since Jan 2011. I notice the difference in quality of rides and qty of headline entertainment though I don't find it as drastic as some here do. Back to the topic of Casey jr, while I think it is not up to par with the themeing of the beauty and beast/mermaid area I can accept it for what it is and see it balances the
 
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IlikeDW

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IlikeDW said:
I was not trying to change anyone's mind just pointing out not everything in the past was perfect. My point of reference is different since my first visit was in 2006 so I can not draw a comparison to anything before that. I have since been to Disneyland and am going again this year over WDW since little has changed since Jan 2011. I notice the difference in quality of rides and qty of headline entertainment though I don't find it as drastic as some here do. Back to the topic of Casey jr/Circusland, while I think it is not up to par with the themeing of the beauty and beast/mermaid area I can accept it for what it is and see it balances the
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the rest of new fantasyland a little, personally we will not spend much time there but in 2006 when my daughter was 6 we probably would have between dumbo, barnstormer, casey Jr.
rather than berate TDO for what they did/did not do in new fantasy land I would want to take them to task for things like the Yeti, the problems with Splash, empty shuttered resteraunts in a park that could use/support them especially if combined with a show, or the latest head scratcher rumor that Spectro may be returning unchanged when they had two years where they could have seriously plussed it and spread the cost out. anyway just my two cents.
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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threeyoda said:
No ones perfect, mistakes happen. Even Walt made mistakes.
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Citing what happened with year one Disneyland is a terrible example because the amount of resources Walt had at the time to do the (then) crazy idea were not exactly pentiful and the whole project was rushed to completion (you try building a whole theme park in a year). It wasn't a "mistake", it was a legitamite series of problems that he set out to fix almost immediately when he knew he could.
 

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