News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[celluloid]

I forgot Pirates and PhilharMagic only has Coco from this century. Country Bears has modern songs now but not modern characters.
MK does always seem to be 20 years behind, New Fantasyland used film that came out then 20 years ago. Completely understand that Cars might not fit in Frontierland, but MK does need some IP injection from the last 20 years, particularly from the New Renaissance era of Disney (Princess and the Frog to Encanto)

If they are created this century or altered..they are of this century in production. I see your IP point though.

New Fantasyland is the opposite problem and only happened because DIsney's goals for the remakes were in affect. No coincidence the anchors included Beauty and the Beast, Dumbo and Mermaid. While the attractions are based on the classics, the international recognition and synergy was there. The slate was ready to begin for all the majors to be remade.

MK only seems 20 years behind because management for 20 years plus now has been terrible.

 

[Disstevefan1]

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PERFECT!

 

[John park hopper]

Disney's 21 century car land ---you drive through dilapidated poverty stricken cities scoring points for successful drug deals, evading carjackings, extra points for not getting shot in a drive-by. You win by evading the police in the final car chase. Can't get more up to date than this. Of course I am being sarcastic --I hate to see TSI and RoA disappear on the premise it's outdated.

 

[Rich Brownn]

I don't think that's true. (Although, I suppose it depends on your definition of sliver.)

I think most here would grudgingly accept a plan that docked the riverboat, widened the lower island and reclaimed it, and filled everything north of it. Basically a 'smile' of water from Big Thunder to Haunted Mansion that maintains the riverfront.

They would have to add plumbing and connect it to water lines. The current ROA shares water with the Seven Seas Lagoon

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

I think most here would grudgingly accept a plan that docked the riverboat

I won’t “accept” any plan that doesn’t keep the riverboat operating but I’m fine with a much shorter route.

I actually like the idea of keeping the lower island only - we do lose the fort and the cool bridge, but everything else we get to keep including the mills, the barrel bridge, etc.

It expands the park, makes the riverboat more attractive and increases capacity with a shorter run time - simplifies maintenance on the island. Lots of wins.

 

[Disstevefan1]

I won’t “accept” any plan that doesn’t keep the riverboat operating but I’m fine with a much shorter route.

I actually like the idea of keeping the lower island only - we do lose the fort and the cool bridge, but everything else we get to keep including the mills, the barrel bridge, etc.

It expands the park, makes the riverboat more attractive and increases capacity with a shorter run time - simplifies maintenance on the island. Lots of wins.

Your suggestion is too logical, too smart, puts the guest experience first - Disney would never go for it.

 

[Disstevefan1]

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That's silly.

Disney does not work that fast and efficient.

Plus, where are the WALLS?

 

[DonniePeverley]

At the risk of scouring 319 pages of imagineering nonsense ... does anyone have any concrete plans of what we will see?



Or will it be classic tactics of a big announcement then give us a cheap attraction that belongs at Six Flags. An attraction that goes backwards and forwards, with a lick of paint and call 'Pixars Cars'. Or are we getting a worlclass attraction?

 

[Disstevefan1]

At the risk of scouring 319 pages of imagineering nonsense ... does anyone have any concrete plans of what we will see?



Or will it be a 'classic Josh' ... big announcement then give us a cheap attraction that belongs at Six Flags. An attraction that goes backwards and forwards, with a lick of paint and call 'Pixars Cars'. Or are we getting a worlclass attraction?



Last thing we need is more space for free loading annual pass holders to have their home made lunch.

No one knows for sure including Disney.

If I had to guess, the blurry rendering Josh showed us will not resemble what we actually get in 6 to 8 years from now.

What we will get will be a cost cut version of whatever they are trying to do.

Good to see the hatred for APs remains strong.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

At the risk of scouring 319 pages of imagineering nonsense ... does anyone have any concrete plans of what we will see?

Only thing we have is the concept art - some claim that the attraction will feature trackless ATV’s. Nothing in the concept art pieces show any dark ride elements - there is a Lightning and Mater at the “finish” line similar to radiator springs racers.

 

[Schmidt]

No one knows for sure including Disney.

If I had to guess, the blurry rendering Josh showed us will not resemble what we actually get in 6 to 8 years from now.

What we will get will be a cost cut version of whatever they are trying to do.

Good to see the hatred for APs remains strong.

So what you are saying is you are looking forward to this??? Honestly you sound like you have an axe to grind with this company. Like a big Paul Bunyan kind of Axe.

Also when was the last time you were at WDW?

 

[Schmidt]

Only thing we have is the concept art - some claim that the attraction will feature trackless ATV’s. Nothing in the concept art pieces show any dark ride elements - there is a Lightning and Mater at the “finish” line similar to radiator springs racers.

There is actually a tunnel or 2 and not to mention it starts off in warehouse type structure. Seems like there are areas for dark ride elements. With that said I don’t know if this will happen, but neither do you

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

With that said I don’t know if this will happen, but neither do you

Which is why I said a factual statement and only that.

“Nothing in the concept art pieces show any dark ride elements”

 

[Schmidt]

Which is why I said a factual statement and only that.

“Nothing in the concept art pieces show any dark ride elements”

Sometimes it’s not what you say it’s what you imply.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I doubt there is anyone who will find saving a sliver of RoA or having the new Cars Mini-Land being awash in water features to be satisfactory. The sliver and water features will be mercilessly derided and mocked.

There's no bargain to be had that leaves devotees of RoA content.

Not true, they could have left the small TSI there. The LB could still go around, albeit in a much smaller path, and TSI could still exist.

 

[Figments Friend]

A friendly reminder of how even the most spectacular projects often end up -

 

[Bocabear]

That is the truth...there are so many changes that can happen once they begin the actual dirt-moving and demolition...I think, like the demo of Communicore, they are probably going to find it more expensive than planned and we will star seeing parts of the plan disappear...maybe more so in Villain's Land as that art was vague to begin with.

 

[Disstevefan1]

So what you are saying is you are looking forward to this??? Honestly you sound like you have an axe to grind with this company. Like a big Paul Bunyan kind of Axe.

Also when was the last time you were at WDW?

I am a huge Disney and WDW fan. I actually do not want to know how much I have spent on all things Disney in my life.

I really love the Pandora land in AK although it took way too long to build. Yes, they jammed in an IP, but I still like it.

The EPCOT renovation of Future world was a HUGE disappointment and took way too long.

Harmonious was a disappointment and a huge waste of money. I really miss illuminations. I wish they simply updated the tech, maybe tweaked the show and threw in some IP and created an updated illuminations.

The Star cruiser was out of my price range and I am disappointed they pulled the plug so soon. It seems TWDC can lose truckloads of money in their movie business and streaming business but they run their theme park business with really tight budgets compared to their other businesses.

Mostly due to the HUGE disappointment about the Future world renovation I am really worried about this Cars area as I expect this to take WAY TOO LONG and will be cost cut to death. I am happy to be wrong, we will see in 6 to 8 years from now.

I am also disappointed that in WDW which has the blessing of size still wants to "destroy and replace" instead of actually expanding and I will miss ROA TSI and the riverboat, but yes I am a weirdo who always watched the film at the end of Maelstrom. I do enjoy the Frozen ride that replaced it; love the queue, and do enjoy the ride even though I understand it should not be there and they just jammed in an IP.

I will also miss Muppets 3D when they destroy that.

We were at EPCOT in Feb. and AK in June and spent way too much money both times. My family stayed at WDW resorts at least three times this year and have a couple of stayed scheduled this year while I stay home to make the money to give to the mouse.

Axe to grind? You bet.

I think the things TWDC does to my beloved WDW gets to me because I am too much of a WDW fan...

 

[Disstevefan1]

A friendly reminder of how even the most spectacular projects often end up -

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This is perfect! Was this part of the stuff from that Disney Slack leak?

 

[Bocabear]

I am a huge Disney and WDW fan. I actually do not want to know how much I have spent on all things Disney in my life.

I really love the Pandora land in AK although it took way too long to build. Yes, they jammed in an IP, but I still like it.

The EPCOT renovation of Future world was a HUGE disappointment and took way too long.

Harmonious was a disappointment and a huge waste of money. I really miss illuminations. I wish they simply updated the tech, maybe tweaked the show and threw in some IP and created an updated illuminations.

The Star cruiser was out of my price range and I am disappointed they pulled the plug so soon. It seems TWDC can lose truckloads of money in their movie business and streaming business but they run their theme park business with really tight budgets compared to their other businesses.

Mostly due to the HUGE disappointment about the Future world renovation I am really worried about this Cars area as I expect this to take WAY TOO LONG and will be cost cut to death. I am happy to be wrong, we will see in 6 to 8 years from now.

I am also disappointed that in WDW which has the blessing of size still wants to "destroy and replace" instead of actually expanding and I will miss ROA TSI and the riverboat, but yes I am a weirdo who always watched the film at the end of Maelstrom. I do enjoy the Frozen ride that replaced it; love the queue, and do enjoy the ride even though I understand it should not be there and they just jammed in an IP.

I will also miss Muppets 3D when they destroy that.

We were at EPCOT in Feb. and AK in June and spent way too much money both times. My family stayed at WDW resorts at least three times this year and have a couple of stayed scheduled this year while I stay home to make the money to give to the mouse.

Axe to grind? You bet.

I think the things TWDC does to my beloved WDW gets to me because I am too much of a WDW fan...

This is how I also feel. I have been a fan since my first visit as a kid in 1971. We are DVC owner, we are Florida residents and have visited the parks a ridiculous amount of times. It just seems like the design and creative management have gone off the rails in the past 5 years.... Like the current management doesn't understand what was built prior to 10 years ago, and don't quite get the style and general feel of the parks... The original design for MK and EPCOT were pretty flawless... It was what was done after that that have watered down the intent. The Communicore disaster and Harmonius were a collosal failure... to me. I am concerned moving forward that this current leadership and team are going to continue this trend of misplaced IP and continue to destroy the very fabric of the parks we loved.