forgive my ignorance but in the original post, the map showed a large area for this cars attraction and a lot of it looked outside the ring of the train. Could they go out that way, redirect of make a tunnel for Floridian way and keep RoA and TSI? I just hope they don't try to shoe horn this attraction in like they did with the mine train and make the attraction less than it should be.
We can but hope but it doesnt look that way. What you propose would make a lot more sense in my opinion, by adding a great new attraction ( hopefully!) but keep the sight lines and general feel of the land in that area. Also it would increase the footprint of the park which is certainly needed as Magic Kingdom is the #1 theme park in the world. More room for guests to go into couldnt be a bad thing.
Cool.I am a huge Disney and WDW fan. I actually do not want to know how much I have spent on all things Disney in my life.
I really love the Pandora land in AK although it took way too long to build. Yes, they jammed in an IP, but I still like it.
The EPCOT renovation of Future world was a HUGE disappointment and took way too long.
Harmonious was a disappointment and a huge waste of money. I really miss illuminations. I wish they simply updated the tech, maybe tweaked the show and threw in some IP and created an updated illuminations.
The Star cruiser was out of my price range and I am disappointed they pulled the plug so soon. It seems TWDC can lose truckloads of money in their movie business and streaming business but they run their theme park business with really tight budgets compared to their other businesses.
Mostly due to the HUGE disappointment about the Future world renovation I am really worried about this Cars area as I expect this to take WAY TOO LONG and will be cost cut to death. I am happy to be wrong, we will see in 6 to 8 years from now.
I am also disappointed that in WDW which has the blessing of size still wants to "destroy and replace" instead of actually expanding and I will miss ROA TSI and the riverboat, but yes I am a weirdo who always watched the film at the end of Maelstrom. I do enjoy the Frozen ride that replaced it; love the queue, and do enjoy the ride even though I understand it should not be there and they just jammed in an IP.
I will also miss Muppets 3D when they destroy that.
We were at EPCOT in Feb. and AK in June and spent way too much money both times.My family stayed at WDW resorts at least three times this year and have a couple of stayed scheduled this year while I stay home to make the money to give to the mouse.
Axe to grind? You bet.
I think the things TWDC does to my beloved WDW gets to me because I am too much of a WDW fan...
Galaxies Edge is amazing! You don’t like it? That’s fine, but you keep spinning it as if it’s a failure. It’s my favorite theme park experience bar none for me.
I didn’t say, nor do I think either are a failure. There are some parts of the Epcot redesign I like - although Fountain of Nations removal should be a criminal offense.
Which parts? The broken lights, the air-conditioned building that replaced an existing air-conditioned building, or the water cycle walk-through?
Katiebug hates the ROA and TSI. It's so unmagical.
The tables in the shaded areas are nice - I don’t love the design but the Starbucks and Connections Cafe do serve the area better than the former Starbucks and electric umbrella. Some of the additional plants are nice (minus the one of questionable design of course).
C B movie was made in 2002. Though if you are saying the movie was forgettable, I think we'd all agree with you.
I would assume cost overruns and (in the latter example) siphoning of entertainment offerings for eventual use in the Starcruiser. I didn't say things don't change, just that the scale of plan alteration, the genuine cutting of funding, and the reason behind it is different for EPCOT.
I disagree. It may be not good, but it’s not forgettable. I will never get the everything about Christopher Walkens character and performance to leave my Brain.
It doesn’t really matter what the reason is does it?
The scale of the cuts is not the same at all. You had two full attractions abandoned (Poppins, PLAY!), one significant refurbishment cancelled (Spaceship Earth), and an ambitious architectural structure replaced with a gas station (Festival Center) in addition to the more typical alterations you might expect from overruns within the gardens themselves (e.g. no Wishing Tree, nixed water feature, diminished elevated area around the statue, etc.).
Those are multiple projects - I’m talking about the Epcot spine project only.
But it certainly is a good reason to manage expectations, given the company's history. Marie
To clarify, I meant that my preferred name, "Riverfront Square" is no longer an applicable name since the area is no longer along a river front. What is appropriate is some sort of celebration of our expansion west from the 13 original colonies. Tiana's Bayou Adventure can be the starting point of the Louisiana purchase. Cars is the Pacific Northwest and Thunder Mountain is monument valley.
Regardless of how you want to arbitrarily scope the complaint, the Festival Center downgrade to CommuniCore Hall is a uniquely massive change in plans necessitated by a similarly unique reduction in funding. We’re not talking about opting not to build out a shop/restaurant interior or cutting some of the scenic decor and entertainment in the area.
This is not a thread on Pandora, but I have mixed feelings about it, and where it is located. The rides have been popular, so in that way it is a success, but my inclination when I visit is to think up a number of ways it could have been better.
