News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

Animaniac93-98

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Which brings up another question, will this impact Columbia Harbour House?

I previously felt that Disney wouldn't go to the trouble of retheming Liberty Square because of the expense involved, but I think it's entirely possible at least some buildings get altered.

Columbia Harbour House could be turned into the long rumored HM restaurant, for example.
 

bwr827

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No one can explain why ROA/TSI should even remain other than it’s already there. The place is a ghost town.
It’s a long thread so maybe you skipped all the comments that clearly explain why.

I don’t agree with those comments, but amid the noise there have been clear cases made about the look, feel, vibe, history, etc. - regardless of those two attractions being used.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Magic Kingdom already has an example of a ride put into a space decades after design with less than ideal results.

Magic Carpets of Aladdin physically fits into that corner of Adventureland, but it sticks out because the aesthetic and scale does not match the surrounding area. Some effort was made to dress up the existing shops as a middle eastern bazaar, but it's ornamentation that doesn't carry the theme enough or hide the attraction from all angles.

You could say the ride is cheap and that's why it looks bad, but a more expensive version of the attraction like in TDS would still clash in front of the Sunshine Pavilion and be visible above the roofline from Frontierland.

I worry Cars will be another example of this. Yes, more money is involved and rockwork looks nicer than plastic carpets, but as I've tried to explain Disney parks are more than just individual elements placed wherever.
 

SoFloMagic

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Wouldn't it be weird if everyone waited to see before they judged it? How do you all know that it won't have water, or shade, or kinetic energy?

You're getting yourselves all worked up about something that's already been decided and may end up being a good thing. Hit the pause button and bring the outrage back in 2029 if this is terrible.
 

doctornick

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There's something potentially being announced possibly as soon as next Destination D23 just as work starts on RoA that can be open as early as late 2026 to soften the blow for fans for another park. It'll be a fan favorite if it happens.

Disney has plans for 2026. I've heard some stuff, others have heard some stuff. Let's see where stuff happens.

Stuff.
simple question: would this me something actually new as in going somewhere where there is nothing in guest use? Or would this be a replacement of something?
 
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SoFloMagic

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There's been plenty of hints to that, but I would presume going into RNR, right? Or would it be some sort of new build?

Edit: I went back and see it was a specific reference to RNR. So, whatever. I'm sure that could fine, but doesn't really improve DHS. It needs additions not replacements.
Incredicoaster 2.0

But actually 0.5 because rnrc is a worse ride system than California screamin
 

doctornick

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Maybe they would give us the same restraints they have on Hyperspace Mountain in Paris? That would improve things immensely.

And the baby-on-a-stick gag would work better in a dark room.

I think an Incredibles theme to RNR would actually be a decent shift and agree that doing the theming in a dark show building would likely work better than the outdoor coaster in DCA.

But it doesn't remotely solve what DHS needs. It's just rearranging deck chairs.

Wake me up when they actually add to that park. I'm assuming it will be like 2050 or something.
 

SoFloMagic

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I think an Incredibles theme to RNR would actually be a decent shift and agree that doing the theming in a dark show building would likely work better than the outdoor coaster in DCA.

But it doesn't remotely solve what DHS needs. It's just rearranging deck chairs.

Wake me up when they actually add to that park. I'm assuming it will be like 2050 or something.
Would replacing a theater show and two stores that have been closed since covid with a theater show and an E-ticket coaster qualify?
 

ToTBellHop

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I think an Incredibles theme to RNR would actually be a decent shift and agree that doing the theming in a dark show building would likely work better than the outdoor coaster in DCA.

But it doesn't remotely solve what DHS needs. It's just rearranging deck chairs.

Wake me up when they actually add to that park. I'm assuming it will be like 2050 or something.
Oh, agreed. I am continually shocked that they drag their heels on replacing some freakin’ offices with an actual expansion that adds a few rides and improves flow around the park. The park has such a bizarre flow and they refuse to improve it.
 

STITCHGEFAN

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Jungle Cruise is an operational headache, relies on a worldview that is antiquated at best, and all the “dad” jokes are triggering to those with complicated relationships to their own fathers. It’s time has passed. Plus, building out would be an environmental headache. Moana speaks to the current generation better. We won’t be taking any questions on this.
Without trying to cause further hysteria, I can see a Magic Kingdom without Jungle Cruise. Tastes change through generations, and Jungle Cruise's humour and charm, from my experience, is hitting less and less with a younger demographic. I can't see Jungle Cruise being in MK 15 years from now.

It's part of the reason TSI has lost its appeal, playing and adventuring outdoors just isn't as popular now (which is another conversation completely). The days of playing Capture the Flag (which TSI is tremendous for) are all but gone. What are classics to many people on this forum are archaic and, dare I say, boring to many others.

Some attractions simply aren't timeless, and sadly, TSI & ROA are among them. I don't think it's unfair to say they are appreciated less now than ever before by visitors, and that will always tell eventually. It will see a similar fate for almost every single attraction on site at some point, as unfathomable as that may seem now.

I'm personally nervous about losing Liberty Belle because I love the charm and ambience it brings to the Frontierland waterfront, and it's one of my earliest memories when I think about MK. But will that bother the majority? I can't answer that with conviction. Will more people appreciate the entire area after the changes? Almost certainly.

I understand the resentment, but I think some people are forgetting what they think is best isn't necessarily an opinion held by the majority.
 

PREMiERdrum

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Maybe they would give us the same restraints they have on Hyperspace Mountain in Paris? That would improve things immensely.
The Vekoma restraints are a fairly direct swap - I'm surprised we haven't seen them here already.
And the baby-on-a-stick gag would work better in a dark room.
Proper, sequential lighting in a controlled environment would help just about all of ICs scenes.
 

LSLS

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I’m not convinced a large theater show can actually fit. I’m thinking any show would need to be tiny.
That's what I can't figure out. People really aren't comprehending the size of the Muppets Courtyard. Slinky Dog by itself takes up more area than the entire Muppets Courtyard plus the little lot behind it.

Edited to add, we probably need to move all this discussion over to Monsters thread.
 

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