TheRealSkull
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Currently holding out hope the backside of the Rivers of America is left untouched, and Villains goes behind it. There wouldn't be Tom Sawyer's Island, but it would be the best case scenario now.
I'm surprised they haven't decided to turn Frontierland TSI into Frozen 2 with the Autumn Forest. Infact this could be brilliant because there's a river where Anna and Olaf moat on so there's your reason to keep ROA.If that's the new criteria for Frontierland — believing in yourself and carving your own path — we could have rides themed around modern Disney classics like Wish and Strange World as the heroes in those movies all strive to carve their own path. They would be new, relevant IPs. Could maybe get rid of outdated rides like Big Thunder Mountain to make room for them.
In all seriousness though, while I'm not at all upset about the loss of Tom Sawyer's island, that quote was one of the silliest things I've ever heard.
Currently holding out hope the backside of the Rivers of America is left untouched, and Villains goes behind it. There wouldn't be Tom Sawyer's Island, but it would be the best case scenario now.
Havent thought of that. All we ask is to keep the Liberty Bell even if the sight of it with the castle was beautiful. Can it stay and have a smaller circle route on the backside. You can drive cars and ride a ship. At least you then have the Best of Both World's a Legacy, a new Land, and new attractions.
My understanding is
- Tropical Americas (2027)
- Monsters Inc (2028)
- Cars (2029)
- Villains (2029-2030)
Could also see Cars/Villains opening in the same year or Cars in the same year as Monsters Inc.
Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?There's something potentially being announced possibly as soon as next Destination D23 just as work starts on RoA that can be open as early as late 2026 to soften the blow for fans for another park. It'll be a fan favorite if it happens.
Disney has plans for 2026. I've heard some stuff, others have heard some stuff. Let's see where stuff happens.
Stuff.
Anything HoP, be it Kamala in the event she wins, Trump going back to the current president spot if he wins, Muppets, or anything else in between, will be before then.Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?
I was thinking Imagination.Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?
This TEA pretty much confirms "why they did rid Splash Mountain, Country Bears to IP, and now TSI and ROA and there hasn't been a break since the first one."Reading the tea leaves, I assume the blow being softened is muppets being replaced in DHS for monstropolis? Muppets to MK in some way announced at Destination D23 next year?
That was the original plan. Each country was going to have an attraction but for many reasons they never finished them. They haven't gone back to them and never will as they aren't IP.Epcot is too big for the number of attractions. Every country should have something.
When is next Destination D23? Does RoA work start by next July (when I’ll be there)? If they think for a second that Figment is going to soften the blow of losing Muppets, they’ve got another think coming.There's something potentially being announced possibly as soon as next Destination D23 just as work starts on RoA that can be open as early as late 2026 to soften the blow for fans for another park. It'll be a fan favorite if it happens.
Disney has plans for 2026. I've heard some stuff, others have heard some stuff. Let's see where stuff happens.
Stuff.
If the current rumor of reusing the existing track layout holds up then I could see it taking about a year, given they shutter the current attraction immediately after Destination concludes. Don’t think anyone’s gonna need that much time to say goodbye to the 22 yr old dumpster fire that’s there now. resurrecting the original set pieces is very doable.I was thinking Imagination.
If Muppets is going for Monsters, I think we're going to know this year and the HoP Muppets will be announced at the same time.
They clearly said what of the next 5 years, exactly?They clearly said next 5 years.
This thread is 87% people arguing against made-up points. So… just another day at the forums!
I was going from the perspective that the Monsters featured are Universal Creatives own interpretations even though they say all the classic movie events are apparently canon to the lands story.I think this is fair, but it would also make Fantasy Springs an example of an “original creation” which I likely wouldn’t agree with.
Although I imagine it doesn’t really come from a place of generosity. Universal really loves building the 1:1 recreations of scenes and landscapes from their IPs — if there was a notable enough place in the Universal monster catalogue, they probably would have done it.
I don’t think there’s much left for gaming IP that could be easily adapted to a theme park AND be a huge multi-generational mass market draw outside of core gaming circles. Nintendo was pretty much it.Yeah, universal has found a genuine weapon against Disney.
Honestly, if universal acquired more rights aside from Nintendo and Pokémon, and really pushed forward with a gaming ip amusement park then I would actually consider creating a vacation to only visiting universal and skip Disney. Something I never thought I would say.
But stuff like Mario, donkey Kong, and Pokémon are all relatable things for adults and it doesn’t hurt my kids love these ips too. It’s a really huge win - win situation for universal and I would honestly be slightly nervous if I were Disney.
Same for me! I'm in my 20s and other day when I went to Epcot I did LWTL, Spaceship Earth. Then walked around World Showcase and went to the Seas Pavilion through gift shop.As a dedicated fan, I find almost all of my time visiting the parks is dedicated to classic attractions. Mansion, Peoplemover, Carousel of Progress, Pirates, Jungle Cruise, etc in MK; Spaceship Earth, Living with the Land, Figment in Epcot, etc.Rarely am I stampeding to the latest IP attraction.
It'll sell more merch on property.That's a great question. Will adding cars sell more merch? I'm not really too sure if I really think about it. It's sold just fine without a ride. Little boys will probably always want toy cars. It's kind of like imagination. If they spend the money to fix it, will the line for a figment popcorn bucket be 3hrs instead of 2? I don't know. People just like figment and it sells great with one of the worst rides on property.
To paraphrase Joni Mitchell "They are paving paradise to put up a parking lot"Exactly. As the park gets more crowded, with more stampede prone FOMO attractions and no escape or retreat, more overwhelming, hotter with less shade and fewer water features, people will inevitably stay for shorter periods, returning to their hotel or in the case of locals, home. Eventually, this will lead to lost revenue. But by then it will be far too late.
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