Virtual Toad
Well-Known Member
Sigh.
This definitely expands capacity at the Magic Kingdom with the number of guests enjoying the cars and villain's attractions vs TSI and the Riverboat so that is a good thing.
It pretty much always was relaxing except for the drops.People can find plenty of shade, boredom, a place to relax, and water on Tiana's Bayou Adventure. With the thrill elements mostly removed (beyond the drop) it's now primarily a relaxing/ambiance type ride.
Does not sound weird at all. I always make it a point to walk along that path. It is beautiful....Again, there is no reason why we have to lose that...It may sound weird, but one of the things I really enjoy at MK is walking on the wooden path they added along the water to go to Splash/BTMRR. I don't know, but just the feeling of walking on that along the river brings a smile to my face.
I felt much the same years ago with the changes made to the hub and the removal of all the tress in the center. After my mom died when I was 13, when We took business trips with my Dad in the summer, he would drop us off at the park in the morning, work most of the day and meet us at the hub. We’d find him sitting on the seats surrounding the planters waiting on us and sometimes we would just sit and tell him about our day while he relaxed from a long day at work and was undoubtedly dreading a long night ahead (the MK often was open routinely until 1 AM in those days.). My brother and I always were impatient but even back then there were times when we just enjoyed sitting there with him, watching people, listening to the music and soaking it all in. It was just time and place to relax and enjoy. That seems to be increasingly uncommon these days in all of the parks.All this talk has made me realize that what I love about WDW truly is not just the rides, but the entire experience of the parks. I love the trees, the water features, and beauty of the parks themselves. One of the reasons I love MK so much is because of areas like ROA where I can sit and stare out over the water and think about life. I bet the majority of "rides, rides, rides" people are fine with this because they view the parks as collection of rides to experience and this gives them more of what they want. But for those of us who view the parks as an escape from the hustle and bustle of the world, this choice hurts.
I loved the entire waterfront from LS to BTM. It felt real. Natural. Relaxing. And it made me happy.It may sound weird, but one of the things I really enjoy at MK is walking on the wooden path they added along the water to go to Splash/BTMRR. I don't know, but just the feeling of walking on that along the river brings a smile to my face.
I have a feeling this is WDW Operations ASKING for something to replace the river. They don't like operating it, they don't like that it's connected to the outer water system. And the want something to expand capacity without expanding the walking distance.I have a question for D'Amaro
Is it because of Encanto moved that you decided to abandon Desert Land knowing Cars wouldn't be accepted if brought in as Cars Land (DCA) further behind Coco.
Did you scrap Coco because Encanto was gone and didn't find Cars with Coco not fit like Encanto together even though both along Big Thunder are easily Desert environment properties? All you had left was Cars so you just turned it Frontier instead of just going Cars Land (DCA) behind Big Thunder?
It doesn't need to get physically larger. More acreage. Not "it never needs new things."That’s an … interesting take.
This doesn’t surprise me. More guest space to spread people out, and I can imagine OPs is tired of having to shuttle things over to TSI every time something needs to be refurbed.Something to be aware of. Plans to replace TSI and Rivers of America have been on the cards for years. What to put here has only recently been finalized.
I'd say you should be an executive at Disney. But it seems as you're not dumb enough. You can't go saying all these things that make sense.Hey, you know what would expand capacity even more? Leaving the RoA/TSI as is and building Cars on new unused land!
I guess this is the part that I understand the least. That water is absolutely disgusting. It's dirty and brown and littered with garbage and it attracts smelly birds that poop on everything and attack you while you try to eat a turkey leg.No more water?
People on this site are just very, very against change.I took the afternoon off of reading this and suddenly there's 95 pages! Read the tea leaves, Disney! This ain't a good idea!
They want to keep more space open for expansions (they can now use the dry dock for the Liberty Belle for Coco or a Villians expansion)I'd say you should be an executive at Disney. But it seems as you're not dumb enough. You can't go saying all these things that make sense.
I think this is an additional reason as well - by the time they factor the costs of mechanical issues, the lack of excitement for a clone people already experienced, and overall return for a new attraction, they figured out they get a better ROI if they just upfront commit to making unique versions then paying for a clone and dealing with thatI also wonder if they’ve come to the realization - after building multiple clones of rides, sometimes at the same time - the variable headaches aren’t worth the supposed cost savings (which gets eaten up). Can’t imagine the ROTR or TBA buildouts were relatively cost friendly, given the delivery and operational problems at the outset.
So your answer is a Frozen ride is not ever going to come to Disneyland because any World of Arendale comes with a Frozen Ever After type of ride. How do you explain Galaxy's Edge..?? Thank you for confirming Coco is forever at West Coast now which we can breathe a shy of relief.
People showed up out of the woodworks to defend something the MOMENT Disney said its going away. I've heard people wanting to retheme Tom Sawyer and the rivers for ages. I can't wait to hear this exact same thing about Speedway whenever it inevitably closes. "It added so much kinetics" "It was a Walt attraction"People on this site are just very, very against change.
I can sympathize with those who mourned the loss of Splash Mountain as that was a top 5 attraction and as iconic as Pirates of the Carribbean, the Haunted Mansion and it's a Small World. But I have a hard time believing there are that many die-hard Tom Sawyer Island fans. Hardly anyone goes on Tom Sawyer's Island and I doubt the average person would even know what the Rivers of America is when discussing theme parks. The Cars retheme announcement is something that will really only bother hyper-online parks fans.
Personally I like Tom Sawyer (the novel and its adaptaions) much more than I like Cars, but from a business standpoint this retheme is a no brainer. You are freeing up 10-12 acres that park guests rarely utilize and giving the crowds multiple major e-tickets in their place (cause removing the island also enhances access to the villain land).
Let me introduce to a little thing called call of duty.and guns are not very cool to most younger audiences
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