News Cars-Themed Attractions at Magic Kingdom

[AidenRodriguez731]

Lots of opinions there, not facts.

Respect that others disagree.

I apologize if I seemed to disrespect you. I didn't intend for that. There is some facts like Tom Sawyer is a problematic IP. It doesn't really have a place anymore. I understand that a lot of people did like the river and were saying that even the average guest would hate this change. I'm an average recent guest and I did not care for the river, do not care what happens to it. I'm glad some parts of the river are being preserved based on current rumors/concept art

 

[ToTBellHop]

But is there water next to the CBJ area and where the Liberty Belle dock is? Those are the areas that need a waterfront.

Teddi Barra never actually learned to swim.

 

[JustInTime]

As long as it gives a, “national parks” vibe, I’m on board. I think this could work.

 

[erasure fan1]

I can't wait to hear this exact same thing about Speedway whenever it inevitably closes. "It added so much kinetics" "It was a Walt attraction"

I'm a big believer in kinetics. I think one of the biggest issues in galaxys edge is just that, no kinetics. Without it, lands can feel sterile. It can add those, wow, what's over there! moments. The riverboat does that in its area, that's why it would be a shame to lose it.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I'm a big believer in kinetics. I think one of the biggest issues in galaxys edge is just that, no kinetics. Without it, lands can feel sterile. It can add those, wow, what's over there! moments. The riverboat does that in its area, that's why it would be a shame to lose it.

No offense but how does cars not add kinetics, look at the concept art. You are walking alongside multiple times as they drive next to the path. There's waterfalls, geysers, etc

 

[Dear Prudence]

I apologize if I seemed to disrespect you. I didn't intend for that. There is some facts like Tom Sawyer is a problematic IP. It doesn't really have a place anymore. I understand that a lot of people did like the river and were saying that even the average guest would hate this change. I'm an average recent guest and I did not care for the river, do not care what happens to it. I'm glad some parts of the river are being preserved based on current rumors/concept art

I don't think it's the fact that Tom Sawyer is problematic, because they will never let go of Peter Pan, Pocahontas, etc. It's that it's considered a dead IP. They can't make money off of it selling merchandise.

 

[Thelazer]

Once again.. Disney misses the easy lift.

No "Are you reaaddddyyyy" in the drop.
No "bayou" restaurant around the rivers of the swamp.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

My thoughts exactly.
And don't forget the fountain in the Poly lobby.
In theory - with a Disney of 'yore at the helm this could have a river, geysers etc.
But I'm going to restrain enthusiasm for now.
And yes, I really miss what 20K for Magic Kingdom with its water - I wanted to jump in there!

The fountain in the Poly lobby probably wouldn't of lasted for it being interior would of easily started to create mold.

 

[doctornick]

There is some facts like Tom Sawyer is a problematic IP.

Ignoring that I don’t agree with that premise, it would be remarkably simple to rename the area to not invoke Tom Sawyer or Mark Twain. I don’t think caves and barrel bridges are intrinsically “problematic” are they?

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

I don't think it's the fact that Tom Sawyer is problematic, because they will never let go of Peter Pan, Pocahontas, etc. It's that it's considered a dead IP. They can't make money off of it selling merchandise.

Also true but Disney has defo shifted Peter Pan's problematic aspects, toned them down, or is trying to remove them according to rumors.

 

[AidenRodriguez731]

Ignoring that I don’t agree with that premise, it would be remarkably simple to rename the area to not invoke Tom Sawyer or Mark Twain. I don’t think caves and barrel bridges are intrinsically “problematic” are they?

There isn't a great IP that makes sense in the area without doing a lot of other stuff. As a company, they decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

 

[ctrlaltdel]

I can't over how bold this project is. That doesn't necessarily mean it's smart use of space or a good addition, but I think we can all agree that getting rid most of ROA for a massive, non-clone Cars attraction is bold.

 

[DisneyNeighbor]

If I thought it would make a difference I would call Disney corporate headquarters and express my disappointment and anger about this decision. I can't believe they would destroy a part of history, an American story, and such a beautiful part of the park. This is sickening!

 

[doctornick]

There isn't a great IP that makes sense in the area without doing a lot of other stuff. As a company, they decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Why do any IP? Just slap a new name on it. Heck, just change it to Pirates Lair like in DL

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Jack from DSNY Newscast stated that Coco was far along as a Phase 1 and was set for an area Quadrant side West of Big Thunder and now that it's moved out because Cars was a more financial greater return on investment the land is going to sit there empty. Instead of Cars building itself there he mentions it's possible in the future Coco would make it's way back to there. That area was where I always predicted and who knows if they are lazy to have to rezone replan the Cars area to there whether it's big enough I don't know but I guess it doesn't matter because they want more footprint for people to walk than more footprint for expanding and adding more.

 

[invader]

There isn't a great IP that makes sense in the area without doing a lot of other stuff. As a company, they decided to kill 2 birds with 1 stone.

Just off the top of my head Indiana Jones or Pirates would have easily worked. And they would arguably more thematically appropriate than Cars.

 

[erasure fan1]

No offense but how does cars not add kinetics, look at the concept art. You are walking alongside multiple times as they drive next to the path. There's waterfalls, geysers, etc

It might, we don't really know and that's kind of my problem with most of what was announced. We just don't know a lot of anything. Now with the river boat, that's a iconic part of the magic Kingdoms visual language. Seeing the boat, hearing the horn, that's classic Disney for a lot of people. Myself included. I might not ride it very often, but when I hear and see it, I'm at the magic kingdom. The monorail does the same thing for me. It might sound dumb, but I'm sure I'm not alone. Could what's coming do as good a job and accomplish the same thing? Absolutely. I just don't trust this group of misfits making these decisions.

 

[Dear Prudence]

Also true but Disney has defo shifted Peter Pan's problematic aspects, toned them down, or is trying to remove them according to rumors.

They recently said at Disneyland that they looked at the ride and "saw nothing wrong with it," so I doubt it.

The new Disney Springs Peter Pan land is chock full of the cringe Native stuff.

Which is funny, because the Peter Pan stuff is the one thing Native guests have actually been asking for.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I have a feeling this is WDW Operations ASKING for something to replace the river. They don't like operating it, they don't like that it's connected to the outer water system. And the want something to expand capacity without expanding the walking distance.

The walking distance to Big Thunder Mountain is no different than the walking to Haunted Mansion. You make that equal walking past Big Thunder turn to where the Coco spot was is no different than you contonue past Haunted Mansion to enter Villains Land. So if walking distance is an issue don't build Villains Land.

 

[erasure fan1]

Wouldn’t having an outdoor, motion based attraction provide kinetics?

Maybe. See my post 3 before this one.