Kamikaze
Well-Known Member
Good spot, I didn't even notice that little spot of blueish.
Good spot, I didn't even notice that little spot of blueish.
Overall, ROA at Disneyland is better than MK’s.MK's TSI is so much better than the DL equivalent. Just because a lot of people are foolish to not enjoy it doesn't mean it has no value.
No it didn't. MB is better than DCA Tower. And it isn't close.The amount of folks who fail to grasp this concept is staggering. Bumming around the forums without being able to understand this I guess is fine, but when one of those jokesters makes their way into a position at Disney, we get this. A joke of a decision.
Additionally, this is just yet another sign that NO attraction or space is safe from modern Disney management. I remember it was rumored Guardians would take over Tower of Terror, it felt like a joke someone would make online. But it happened and made the park worse. “At least we still have the better one out in Florida!”, defenders would say. That isn’t the point, though.
The point is that modern Disney has slowly been getting more and more bold over the years with what spaces they can ruin. It starts with something small, like the Main Street Theatre in WDW or the Court of Angels in Disneyland. Then they come for something like Tower of Terror. Now, they take the Rivers of America. All this leads me to realize that I will probably see something like Pirates or Mansion removed in my lifetime, which is heart breaking.
But hey, who needs character, atmosphere or beauty in a Disney park when I could be hearing Larry the Cable Guy say “Get ‘er dun!!” all day?
Exactly. Unfortunately, this move proves that basically nothing is safe. If Pirates or Mansion are deemed expendable and can be replaced with something to sell more merch, they’ll do it.The amount of folks who fail to grasp this concept is staggering. Bumming around the forums without being able to understand this I guess is fine, but when one of those jokesters makes their way into a position at Disney, we get this. A joke of a decision.
Additionally, this is just yet another sign that NO attraction or space is safe from modern Disney management. I remember it was rumored Guardians would take over Tower of Terror, it felt like a joke someone would make online. But it happened and made the park worse. “At least we still have the better one out in Florida!”, defenders would say. That isn’t the point, though.
The point is that modern Disney has slowly been getting more and more bold over the years with what spaces they can ruin. It starts with something small, like the Main Street Theatre in WDW or the Court of Angels in Disneyland. Then they come for something like Tower of Terror. Now, they take the Rivers of America. All this leads me to realize that I will probably see something like Pirates or Mansion removed in my lifetime, which is heart breaking.
But hey, who needs character, atmosphere or beauty in a Disney park when I could be hearing Larry the Cable Guy say “Get ‘er dun!!” all day?
I knew this was being considered since 2016. I didn’t think they’d be daft enough to approve it.
It’s not over yet either.
I actually really agree with this. I think they should lean into the retro/70s vibe. But I would focus it on things specific to or originating in Magic Kingdom. TSI and RoA are neither.MK is over 50 years old, it deserves nostalgia as well.
I don't fully blame those in charge. Part of it is the new generation don't care about a parks theme and don't have the nostalgia of the original parks.The amount of folks who fail to grasp this concept is staggering. Bumming around the forums without being able to understand this I guess is fine, but when one of those jokesters makes their way into a position at Disney, we get this. A joke of a decision.
Additionally, this is just yet another sign that NO attraction or space is safe from modern Disney management. I remember it was rumored Guardians would take over Tower of Terror, it felt like a joke someone would make online. But it happened and made the park worse. “At least we still have the better one out in Florida!”, defenders would say. That isn’t the point, though.
The point is that modern Disney has slowly been getting more and more bold over the years with what spaces they can ruin. It starts with something small, like the Main Street Theatre in WDW or the Court of Angels in Disneyland. Then they come for something like Tower of Terror. Now, they take the Rivers of America. All this leads me to realize that I will probably see something like Pirates or Mansion removed in my lifetime, which is heart breaking.
But hey, who needs character, atmosphere or beauty in a Disney park when I could be hearing Larry the Cable Guy say “Get ‘er dun!!” all day?
"Here lies the Rivers, once wild and free, died in a bed for all to see, now just a puddle instead of a sea."Maybe we'll get a Haunted Mansion tombstone for the RoA too:
"Here lies the Rivers, once wild and free,
Now just a pond, as you can see."
I also wonder if they’ve come to the realization - after building multiple clones of rides, sometimes at the same time - the variable headaches aren’t worth the supposed cost savings (which gets eaten up). Can’t imagine the ROTR or TBA buildouts were relatively cost friendly, given the delivery and operational problems at the outset.
We don’t need coco in MK. Of course that means they’ll put it somewhere now.
Yes, they should be expanding instead of replacing, I don't think anyone can argue that. But if the two options are replace or do nothing, I'll take replace.Hey, you know what increases capacity even more? Putting Cars on virgin land to the north and keeping RoA/TSI. Why not all of it?
I mean, it's the busiest theme park in the world, why not max out capacity especially when you have the "blessing of size"?
What a perfect way to sum this up, @Drew the Disney Dude - your tweet made me realize this is more than just losing the water of the river.
"Here lies the Rivers, once wild and free,
Now just a pond, as you can see."
I don't fully blame those in charge. Part of it is the new generation don't care about a parks theme and don't have the nostalgia of the original parks.
All the care about is new and flashy.
That might actually be right. But as an argument for keeping attractions, nostalgia makes more sense at DL.I would bet that DL has had a higher attraction turnover in the last 53 years than MK.
I would hope they keep some semblance of a river.My prediction is that the riverboat landing building will remain and repurposed for shopping or dining, I also predict the river will remain in places on a smaller scale along with additional water features like what they did in Disneyland, just not a complete loop. It looks like cars will be hidden from current FL/LS with trees and theming.
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