ScorpionX
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Cars was one of the best movies, in my opinion. The worst movie had to be The Incredibles. It was too short, had a dumb plot, and had bad jokes.It is Pixar's worst movie, but that doesn't mean it is bad. On the contrary.
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Figment632
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Should DHS get Carsland? Simply no. DCA needs all the attendance it can get and WDW doesn't need to steal yet another ride. Also this is my first post. I decided to join because I knew absolutely nothing about WDW but know everything about DLR. I have never visited WDW either but go to DLR every 1-2 months. So I am a DLR Vet
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You have never been to DHS so you have no clue what you are talking about.
raven
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Steal? Last time I checked Tower of Terror, Star Tours, Space Mountain, Innoventions and It's Tough To Be A Bug were WDW originals but they are at the DLR now as well.
orky8
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Umm, I believe Star Tours was at DLR first. At its not stealing. It's laziness on the part of Disney.
raven
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Just checked on that because I thought the same and you're correct. But laziness doesn't have anything to do with it. Once a ride has been done once it's easy to repeat without all of the R&D time (and money). DL has a lot of guests that don't normally visit WDW and vice versa. It's just a way to have more people experience a good attraction. This isn't only done between DL and WDW but all of the Disney parks around the world.
orky8
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Sorry, I disagree, Raven - it is laziness. Yes, I completely understand that R&D is significantly less (i.e., next to nothing) to simply poach a ride from another park, but that doesn't make it right. The Magic Kingdom should be fairly universal with some tweaks at each resort, but the other parks should be unique, I think. So, for example, It's Tough to be a Bug is a very appropriate Animal Kingdom attraction. It doesn't belong in DCA. That is just being lazy, instead of developing an attraction that fits the theme. I'm not trying to say there should be no duplicates, but it seems there is a lot of poaching going on and I call that laziness (you call that cost effective, I suppose).
And it's absolutely ridiculous that Soarin in Epcot is still Soarin over California. Come on?!? It can't be that expensive to make a new movie for either Soarin over Florida or Soarin over the Land (world). I have no problem poaching the ride system - but the attraction should fit the theme of the park.
I would love it if Carsland came to DHS, because I go to WDW more than DLR, but, I would love it even more if DHS developed its own, equally amazing attraction instead. That said, I don't want to overly complain here because I am happy when Disney improves its parks and brings new attractions. Period. I would just be happier, if those attractions were specifically developed to enhance the theme of the park, instead of being a cost-effective copy of another resort's attraction.
And it's absolutely ridiculous that Soarin in Epcot is still Soarin over California. Come on?!? It can't be that expensive to make a new movie for either Soarin over Florida or Soarin over the Land (world). I have no problem poaching the ride system - but the attraction should fit the theme of the park.
I would love it if Carsland came to DHS, because I go to WDW more than DLR, but, I would love it even more if DHS developed its own, equally amazing attraction instead. That said, I don't want to overly complain here because I am happy when Disney improves its parks and brings new attractions. Period. I would just be happier, if those attractions were specifically developed to enhance the theme of the park, instead of being a cost-effective copy of another resort's attraction.
DCLcruiser
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They are very similar to F430 headlights. I believe Fiat was a big sponsor of the movie.
Consider: Luigi is a Fiat 500, then at the end Michael Schumacher (Ferrari F1 driver) comes in as a Ferrari F430 accompanied by two Maserati Quattroportes.
Fiat owns Ferrari and Maserati.
Figment632
New Member
If you have never been to WDW you can't comment on what should not be there.
audiotinker
Member
Re-Theme?????
I think they need to re-theme Rock-N-RollerCoaster to be Cars themed instead of based on Aerosmith. I think that would be pretty sweet. They could still do the black lights and the route 66 deal. No carland though...
I think they need to re-theme Rock-N-RollerCoaster to be Cars themed instead of based on Aerosmith. I think that would be pretty sweet. They could still do the black lights and the route 66 deal. No carland though...
Frontierland CM
New Member
They're not poaching anything (what does that mean anyway?). All the parks are owned by the same company. Personally, I agree with Raven. They are trying to let as many people experience an attraction as possible. each park still has it's own attractions that won't be repeated, i.e. Expedition Everest. And, when they duplicate an attraction, the design is different so it's not exactly the same.
Figment632
New Member
What :brick:Slap a few cars items in RnRC and not build a new land for the park :brick:
Hate to say it, but TT came first. JTTCOTE refined it 3 years later, but still has some issues.
Rocket Rods also used a hybrid version but lets not go there.
So... Radiator Springs Racers will be the fourth attraction to use the ride system.
As for the ride not being suitable for DHS since Epcot has Test Track... I don`t see much similarity aside from they both have tracks:
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BrerFrog
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The Incredibles is actually on my TOP 3 Pixar movies. I don't think we have similar tastes when it comes to the studios' products. :lol:
Yeah, I don't think that's laziness. There is nothing wrong with having the same ride at two different parks that are many miles away from each other.
orky8
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Well, I don't want to get into a huge debate, because I definitely see the merits of taking attractions from one park and putting them in another. It is relatively inexpensive, and allows people to see the attractions without traveling as far - I get that. But, think about this (and please correct me if I am wrong) - when Epcot, DHS, Animal Kingdom, and DCA opened, how many rides in those parks were duplicates of attractions found at another park? As best as I can remember, only one, and that was Star Tours. I can't think of another.
Granted, all those parks needed more attractions, but instead of developing unique attractions, they began borrowing (poaching, stealing, using - whatever word you want here) from other parks. This is cheap and easy, but I think takes away some from the specialness of each park. It seems lately, there is a lot of this borrowing going on, and while on one hand, it is great as it adds the number of attractions, on the other hand, I think it takes away from the uniqueness of the parks. I think this is lazy (or cheap).
So, for Carlsand, my selfish side definitely wants to see it at DHS, as I live in Virginia and go to WDW much more than DLR/DCA, and the BLT could sure use a replacement, but my other side thinks it should be a DCA only attraction and DHS should have its own unique and amazing attraction. I see both sides (heck, I want both sides), but I still think it is a bit of laziness (or cheapness, I also now accept that term).
Granted, all those parks needed more attractions, but instead of developing unique attractions, they began borrowing (poaching, stealing, using - whatever word you want here) from other parks. This is cheap and easy, but I think takes away some from the specialness of each park. It seems lately, there is a lot of this borrowing going on, and while on one hand, it is great as it adds the number of attractions, on the other hand, I think it takes away from the uniqueness of the parks. I think this is lazy (or cheap).
So, for Carlsand, my selfish side definitely wants to see it at DHS, as I live in Virginia and go to WDW much more than DLR/DCA, and the BLT could sure use a replacement, but my other side thinks it should be a DCA only attraction and DHS should have its own unique and amazing attraction. I see both sides (heck, I want both sides), but I still think it is a bit of laziness (or cheapness, I also now accept that term).
Figment632
New Member
So when WDW first open every single attraction should have been different from DL??
This is ridiulos I love original attractions but there are only so many things you can do.
Do some research on the Western River Expidition slated for Frontierland in WDW in the 70's. They wanted to build this instead of POTC. When WDW first opened the #1 complaint was Where is POTC.
This is ridiulos I love original attractions but there are only so many things you can do.
Do some research on the Western River Expidition slated for Frontierland in WDW in the 70's. They wanted to build this instead of POTC. When WDW first opened the #1 complaint was Where is POTC.
Frontierland CM
New Member
I don't think the word cheap applies, because these attractions cost MILLIONS of dollars
Lee
Adventurer
Off-topic a bit, but while we're talking about Ferrari ride vehicles...
These are from the Ferrari World park in Abu Dabi.
The yellow one is a Spider from the GT coaster, and the red is (minus about 2 cars) from the F1 Formula Rossa coaster. That bad boy is gonna launch at 150mph. Riders have to wear goggles to protect them from the sand at that speed.
I don't think of it as stealing. It is sharing the success. But I do believe that each park should have SOMETHINGS totally unique.
If Aurora's statement rang true, most of WDW MK was copied from DL. Duh.
Take Space Mountain. Each park has one, but each one is different (unless Tokyo DL is an exact copy like the castle).
Figment632
New Member
Ao you are a DL person should DL not have the following, Space Mountain, Buzz Astro Blasters, TOT, Muppets 3d, Innoventions, aniything in the ANimation building?????
Aurora's#1Fan
New Member
Well I do agree on the success of the attraction and bringing it to another park for guests to experience but:
1.DCA needs all the " THIS IS MINE AND MINE ONLY " attractions to boost it ( Ala WOC )
2.WDW has Test Track but at Epcot. I wouldn't quite understand why Disney would build another E ticket that is the exact same type at another park when you can walk over to the other park and go on it. Don't really see a point in building it another park in the
same area when another has one that is similar already.
3. Do guests want to experience this at another resort? Sure they do who wouldnt. I have wanted a TT at DLR for years. Now I got it but themed much much much more differently. Each parks needs something to draw guests over from the East Coast/West Coast. I hear WDW vets wanting to visit DCA to World of Color all the time. If Each park had the exact same attractions then there would be no point in visiting any other park across the country.
1.DCA needs all the " THIS IS MINE AND MINE ONLY " attractions to boost it ( Ala WOC )
2.WDW has Test Track but at Epcot. I wouldn't quite understand why Disney would build another E ticket that is the exact same type at another park when you can walk over to the other park and go on it. Don't really see a point in building it another park in the
same area when another has one that is similar already.
3. Do guests want to experience this at another resort? Sure they do who wouldnt. I have wanted a TT at DLR for years. Now I got it but themed much much much more differently. Each parks needs something to draw guests over from the East Coast/West Coast. I hear WDW vets wanting to visit DCA to World of Color all the time. If Each park had the exact same attractions then there would be no point in visiting any other park across the country.