AdventureHasAName
Well-Known Member
Thanks, I will. I didn't realize there was a spoiler thread.
-
Welcome to the WDWMAGIC.COM Forums!
Please take a look around, and feel free to sign up and join the community.
Captain America 4
- Thread starter NateD1226
- Start date
Agent H
Well-Known Member
You are welcome frankly I don’t know why so many people are still using this thread we can discuss the movie itself in the spoiler thread and the box office in that thread only thing left to do is argue with Mickey Mouse 10 about the budget
Disney Irish
Premium Member
That is all this thread is for now it appears.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
Who cares?
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
So? Ant Man 3 should have done better than Cap 2.0. It was 3rd in a series and part of a huge larger story. Ant Man 2 followed a successful #1.
And it’s Captain America, whether you like it or not.
MagicMouseFan
Well-Known Member
Disney/Marvel Studios’ Captain America: Brave New World at 4,105 is seeing a second Friday of $7.5M for a take in the mid to high $20Ms. Among Disney MCU movies, The Marvels owns the worst second weekend drop at -78% off a B CinemaScore. Brave New World was B-. At $29M, that’s a -67% decline. Running ten-day total by EOD Sunday at the high end resides at $142M.
deadline.com
‘The Monkey’ Seeing & Doing $12M-$14M, 2nd Best Debut Ever For Neon; ‘Captain America: Brave New World’ Leading With Mid-To-High $20Ms – Box Office
Neon's The Monkey is on its way to posting the best opening for a horror movie YTD with $12M-$14M this weekend after $1.9M previews.
deadline.com
MagicMouseFan
Well-Known Member
Final Estimate:
• Low end: $400M–$450M total worldwide (if it follows The Marvels’ weak legs).
• High end: $500M+ (if it holds better like Quantumania).
• $600M+ seems unlikely unless the international market unexpectedly overperforms.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
It’s already tracking better, not to mention opening better, than Marvels. So it would have to completely fall of the cliff for it to end up the same or worse than Marvels. So still $500M-$600M is more likely, over $600M possible but less likely.
There seems to be a trend of "content providers" trying to be all things to all people and failing badly at it. This is especially true for media that used to be concentrated on one topic trying to cover... everything.
For example, why the hell is Forbes putting out articles on pop culture when they're a business magazine? And why is their 'reporter' obsessed with Disney movies and parks? It's a 'reporter' who has a general B.A. and "writes about travel." In other words... a blogger.
But because she's printed in Forbes (online), it gives her blogs a air of journalism. But she just writes about the things other people write about because she's not doing first-hand journalism.
When a real news organization wants to report on 'everything,' they hire real experts in the field and expect them to do real journalism (that is, initiate conversations with contacts). Otherwise, the articles they write get relegated to the Op Ed section.
But there's a growing trend for all these specialist websites (and print media) to increase subscriptions by writing about everything... even when they don't have staff that has the competency, credentials, or the journalistic ethics to do so.
It used to be that when print media wanted to report on 'everything,' they relied not on an in-house blogger to summarize what they see in other blogs and news sources, but on basically reprinting what Reuters or other real news providers offered.
When I read such articles, I want to know: 1. What's your source? And, 2. Did you confirm what your source told you from other sources? I understand keeping sources anonymous, and so, real journalists have to resort to "someone high in the organization said..." or "documents we've seen..." As their actual, real, insider source.
But these are *not* sources:
- It's been rumored...
- Some are saying...
- It's an open secret...
- Many are saying...
- Watchers are theorizing...
BrianLo
Well-Known Member
Yup, the breakeven at 450 is inaccurate indeed. Merely a cautious estimate we use in a standardized manner.
deadline.com
“I’m told that break-even for the movie lies around $425M global box office”
Disney Calls ‘Captain America: Brave New World’ 4-Day At $100M Opening – Box Office Update
'Captain America: Brave New World' Will Lead 4-day Presidents Box Office with a shot at $100M+ after $40M+ Friday/previews.
deadline.com
“I’m told that break-even for the movie lies around $425M global box office”
MagicMouseFan
Well-Known Member
Update: SATURDAY PM: Despite a B- CinemaScore, and a post-holiday weekend, Captain America: Brave New World isn’t imploding to the degree of The Marvels (-78%) and not as much as Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania (-70%) with a current -68% second drop or $28.1M
based on numbers so far, this movie won’t hit 500 million or cross over slightly if lucky buts its projected at 425 million… but that’s profitable or break even considering break even is 425.
All subject to change of course but so far I was wrong.
I thought this movie would do 600 million.
Maybe Saturday/Sunday produces great numbers and I’m not sure if the movie has opened in all countries.
Last edited:
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
This is an odd way to frame a 68% drop, when the difference between it and Quantumania is just 2% and Ant Man 3 had the higher opening weekend to begin with. Day-to-date it still trails the other movie.
I thought it would hold better, but this bickering and hair splitting over whether it hits the magic number of $425 million globally ignores the obvious fact that Disney doesn't green light a movie like Captain America 4 to just break even in the theatrical window.
MagicMouseFan
Well-Known Member
You saying Disney might not green light another stand alone Captain America movie? It’s possible
I thought it would hold but apparently it’s not, unless something changes and that’s still
Possible. Ant-Man and Wasp had a stronger opening with $106,109,650 domestically over its opening weekend, and its global start was higher, leading to 476 million total. The lower opening for Cap sets a baseline that is harder to overcome, even with a better hold in subsequent weeks.
Disney was looking for more but it’s not a loss at 180 budget and 425 break even point.
Last edited:
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
This will end up being the lowest grossing Captain America movie when adjusting for inflation (the 1st was released 14 years ago), and make far less than #2 without doing that. I don't see #5 happening.
Disney doesn't chose to make safe franchise blockbusters with the hope that they break even.
The do it because they want as big a profit as possible, before ancillary business is accounted for.
I don't know what Disney will do if Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four don't meet their expectations (not just break even). So much is this Marvel stuff is locked in years in advance with little room for adjustment.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
It’s Captain America. I’ve seen it, you haven’t, and it’s roughly on par with all the other single superhero movies, none of which are expected to be “Casablanca.”
Why this would make you happy or gloat is beyond me as a supposed Disney fan.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
All I say to this is just wait and see what happens. People were digging and dancing on the grave of Mufasa after opening weekend just as they are here, in fact the same people, and we saw how Mufasa ended up being a $700M movie.
Maybe this one fails or maybe it has a comeback and ends up doing better than many thought. Basically don’t count it out until the final ticket is sold and all the totals are tallied up.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
Just have to report it if you feel that way.
Tony the Tigger
Well-Known Member
We all know what it is. That’s why I kept correcting it.
Disney Irish
Premium Member
I know what it is, but you can correct it until you’re blue in the face its never going to change the poster. So might as well start reporting it so that way at least it’s cleaned up and not clogging up the thread.
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
IMO their concern should be the climactic Avengers team-up is going to be met with a shrug or indifference by the people who made Endgame the huge hit that it was.