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Sirwalterraleigh

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I also didn't realize reusing the same story line was considered compelling, I had always thought it was consider lazy and sloppy storytelling. I guess Feige and team missed that memo when they decided to skip retelling the Uncle Ben origin story for Spider-Man in the MCU because it had been done already multiple times.
That’s why I said “compelling”…not “good”

Those aren’t the same adjectives


But I wait for the one movie that should have had an audience, but didn’t due to evil conspiracy?

Time to show your hand, apologists
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Just to name a couple of movies that both critics and audiences loved from this year but did not do well…. Transformers one , Fall Guy, and Firiousa…. And to be fair I am only looking at the Blockbustery type as I know not everyone watches the smaller movies
One was a cartoon version of a very oversaturated franchise

Tall guy was presented like a rom com…which are not blockbuster material
I also think Hollywood loves Emily blunt more than everywhere outside Hollywood does?

Furiosa was the most surprising…though an “anthology” of a fanbase that’s always kinda been overestimated might be the problem. If anything…fury road way over performed as a sleeper hit
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
That didn't answer the question.

What would be so compelling about telling the same death of Uncle Ben story again so soon after it was already just told?
Audiences like Spider-Man…that doesn’t mean I like to see it 6 times…they just do

Hence “compelling”

But don’t worry…marvel is really gonna put that superhero draw to the test again the coming
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DKampy

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One was a cartoon version of a very oversaturated franchise

Tall guy was presented like a rom com…which are not blockbuster material
I also think Hollywood loves Emily blunt more than everywhere outside Hollywood does?

Furiosa was the most surprising…though an “anthology” of a fanbase that’s always kinda been overestimated might be the problem. If anything…fury road way over performed as a sleeper hit
You did not say other reasons…. You phrased it as an absolute
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Audiences like Spider-Man…that doesn’t mean I like to see it 6 times…they just do

Hence “compelling”

But don’t worry…marvel is really gonna put that superhero draw to the test again the coming
Months
Right, so you can't answer the question.

There is nothing compelling about seeing Uncle Ben die for the 3rd time in yet another origin story, especially not again in 5 years from the previous time he died. Its why Feige specifically skipped it, and said so at the time.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Right, so you can't answer the question.

There is nothing compelling about seeing Uncle Ben die for the 3rd time in yet another origin story, especially not again in 5 years from the previous time he died. Its why Feige specifically skipped it, and said so at the time.
I told you the answer: Spider-Man

I’m not supporting what audiences do…just acknowledging that they tend to be predictable.

You don’t have to agree and have full license to argue…which is assured
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
I told you the answer: Spider-Man

I’m not supporting what audiences do…just acknowledging that they tend to be predictable.

You don’t have to agree and have full license to argue…which is assured
Just saying Spider-Man isn't an answer. Also Feige must not have the same memo that you do since he purposely skipped it because it actually wasn't compelling.

Also if its such a compelling thing to retell the same story over and over and over in Super Hero movies then why is Gunn also skipping the origin story of Superman and starting right when Clark is at the Daily Planet? You'd think he'd have gotten your memo that audiences don't care and will just watch it all over again because its "compelling".
 

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
Compelling movies find audiences…

Unwanted ones are ignored
Exactly.
The whole point was that Feige and team aren't going to reuse a story line so soon after its use in a previous show or movie, it doesn't matter if SirWalt thinks no one saw it. They aren't going to give any review bombers any ammunition to add fuel to the fire.
Yes, of course they won't tell the same story line beat for beat a 2nd time. But I guarantee no one at marvel or Disney said, we can't do that because of review bombers. Heck they basically retold a new hope with force awakens. So obviously Disney has no problem reusing story. So I'm with you that they wouldn't, but not the why they wouldn't.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
Yes, of course they won't tell the same story line beat for beat a 2nd time.
Sony did with Amazing Spider-Man, its the exact reason why Feige didn't with Homecoming in the MCU because it would have been for a 3rd time.

But I guarantee no one at marvel or Disney said, we can't do that because of review bombers. Heck they basically retold a new hope with force awakens. So obviously Disney has no problem reusing story. So I'm with you that they wouldn't, but not the why they wouldn't.
Never claimed they did, I was just saying no reason to do it for that reason also not that Disney is making decisions because of it.

The New Hope to Force Awakens "retelling" is different in that its not a direct retelling of the same story with the same characters, which is what is being talked about.
 

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