Wow! We took the kiddos out of town for a couple days for a 'last blast' weekend before school starts tomorrow and I missed all the fun. Dangit! I knew my ears was a-burnin' for somethin' but considerin' we was at da beach, silly me thought it was from the sunshine. :lol:
Ever watch that old sitcom "Leave it to Beaver"? People like you remind me of that snooty little girl in Beaver's class. I think her name was Judy. She was the one who was always watching everyone else so that she could raise her hand and tell Miss Landers that someone was looking out the window when they were saying the pledge, or that someone else is whispering in class, or whatever. She was a snooty, self righteous little brown noser who always wanted to make sure that the teacher knew just what a good little rule follower whe was. Posts like yours above put me in the mind of people like that.
Rules are there for a reason, that's true. But when the reason behind a rule, in a particular case, is obviously not an issue, then the rules can be set aside. For example, when it's a dead period and there are only 10 people in the pool, then obviously, there is no real danger of hotel guests not being able to use the pool and therefore, the need to screen for poolhoppers becomes moot. It's in those busy times when a few extra people can make the difference to me not being able to get in, that it becomes imperative to make sure that everyone in that pool is entitled to be there, then by all means, escort them out if they don't belong there. But if there's hardly anyone in the pool, then it doesn't matter if there are a few pool hoppers there, because they aren't impeding anyone else from using the pool.
Rules have their place, but they must be applied with a little common sense. I don't believe in some rigid "Barney Fife" style application of rules, in which the rules themselves are regarded as ends unto themselves that must be followed no matter what. I believe that rules are a means unto an end, (in this case, ensuring that every resort guest who wants to use the pool can do so). But if the end is already being met, by the fact that there aren't that many guests in the pool, then there is no need to fret about rules against pool hopping. Let them use the pool, but in the unlikely event that 100 resort guests all drop in on the pool at once, then those people who aren't resort guests should be made to leave at that time.
Yep. Believe it or not, I have seen Leave it to Beaver. I love old shows like that and wish I could get my own kids to watch 'em. The Beav was such a cutie. And ya just don't hear names/nicknames like that anymore. Such a shame... tsktsktsk... I don't recall this character Judy that you describe which kinda disappoints me. I'm thinking maybe this is official confirmation that I'm gettin' old since I can't conjure her face from my brain. I hate that. I will, however, take your parody of me to her as a compliment. Considering the shows that are on tv today (and I don't watch because the quality is loooong gone IMO) I think there's far worse characters to be compared to. LOL! I have a sense of humor. I know I'm nothing like what you described and never have been. When I was little I was too afraid of everything including my own voice to ever speak up to tattle tale. Also, my older brothers taught me the wisdom in keeping my mouth shut (because getting my rear kicked for tattling was lesson enough). Mostly in those days I'd kill myself trying to compensate to keep the authority figures from finding out other kids messed up so they'd be on an even keel. Mad adults even when mad at people other than me totally stressed me out. That doesn't sound so Judy-ish. Then as a teenager...well...I think I switched ends of the spectrum. I made those 'After School Special' kids look like model citizens. I must have been determined to make every stupid move possible to make my life more difficult and my parents' a living h-e-double-hockey-sticks. Again, not so Judy-ish. As for me in the here-and-now..eh..I'm my worst critic. Calling attention to myself isn't something I'm comfortable with. I'd rather lay low and leave justice to karma. I've found that karma is far more creative than I could ever be. I just leave it at that. Hhhmmm...still not feeling so Judy-ish but I could be wrong. ***giggles***
As far as being snooty, that's totally not something that I have ever been or ever will be. Self-righteous, again, I've screwed up and carried myself down so many totally bass-ackards roads in life that even today it's a constant effort not to question every breath I take. I don't think a person can be that unless they hold themselves in extreme high regard which anyone who knows me can attest to the fact that I'm generally hanging out in the polar opposite area of the spectrum there. Brown-noser, um, not me either. Without giving too much detail, I'm responsible for rules and regulations being written in many places on this earth because I have a way of dancing around what authority figures wanted me to do...always with a smile which made 'em all nuts. HeeHeeHee!
Yep, I believe that rules are there for a reason. After becoming an adult and working in law enforcement I finally understood this and learned how to function in life without seeking out the gray area. Do I think an empty pool should be kept off limits to guests not staying at that resort? No if there's no rule against it. Yes, if the rule states it should be. The problem with allowing guests to make judgement calls is that even tho 90% of the time it won't hurt anything there's still the 10% of the time that it would or could create a problem. Not all guests have good judgement. If a rule is made it should be adhered to and enforced with consequences. That's all there is to it. Gray area creates opportunity for problems. Sticking with the black and white everything remains clear, unchanging, and easily understood. Does that make sense? I'm not trying to be mean or pick on anyone. It's like that with any rule anywhere.
The analogy you used was interesting and I totally get what you are saying. But then it's not that far off from other touchy topics like using 5 year old refillable mugs at the resorts. CMs aren't dinging you on it constantly and I'm sure a couple Cokes ain't destroying Disney's profit margin. The fact that it's not killin' anybody doesn't make it right. I'm not trying to be mean. It's just the simple truth of the matter.
Another thought I had was about the example of adults picking and choosing which rules to abide by when they're important enough to follow isn't something I'm too keen on conveying to my kids. Granted, the OP was talking about her husband and herself without referencing any kids but here's an interesting thought. My boys are 11 & 13. Life is gonna get plenty difficult for me soon enough (believe me, if it's true that your kids pay you back for your teen years even by a fraction I'm in biiiiig trouble). It's really important to me to set the right example for them. When they see other adults breaking rules that they are aware of they look at me questioningly. I generally tell 'em not everyone has the right upbringing or maybe that person doesn't understand the rules or chalk it up to a random bonehead or something. The point is even though you and I know something is totally harmless and doesn't mean squat in the grand scheme of things, kids are watching and they're noticing. Smart little boogers are amongst us...I hope. Ya know?
As for if I'd reeeeaaaallly blow the whistle on somebody who I knew was pool hopping...it's unlikely that would ever happen. First and foremost, of all the trips I've made at an average of 9 days per trip we're talking around 72 days spent in WDW bliss. Of those 72 days I think I've swam in my resort pool maybe 3 or 4 times. We just don't go to WDW during the warmer months so we don't end up spending time by the pools. It'd be hard to blow the whistle on pool hoppers if I'm never actually there. Maybe this next trip just to mix things up I'll go down there super-early and flail about just for..uh..poo's-n-giggles. :lol:
Oooh..and as for my theory of letting karma take care of those menacing pool-hoppers out there...I have the perfect example of just such a case witnessed on my last trip with my brother at the Poly. I forget where we were at that we were coming back to the resort on the monorail. It was late in our trip and probably mid-afternoon. We were sitting in our seats relaxed minding our own business with 2 ladies and a little girl wearing big sunhats, swimsuits, cover-ups, and carrying a mesh beach bag with random beach towels & sunscreen sitting across from us. They were taking quietly amongst themselves. The skies outside were darkening but I didn't think too much of it. Anywhoo, the monorail comes to a stop and one of the ladies looks at my brother and asks, "Is this the Polynesian?" Wow. It was sorta obvious that wasn't her resort if she didn't know if that was it. Coulda been someone who had only been there a day so far but I just didn't get that vibe. So we're walking into the GCH and these ladies are out in front of us looking all around like they're trying to figure out where to go. My brother leans over and says, "I guess I know why the pool has been so packed this week that the girls didn't want to swim in it. It kinda makes me mad." I told him to go find a manager and describe the chicks and I'd meet him back at the room. He replied with, "Naw, they won't do anything anyway." We walked down the stairs and as we were headed out the back doors we see the ladies out in front of us again. Where'd the justice come in? The skies opened up with a big flash/bang of lightning and thunder. It scared the bejeezus outta me but you shoulda seen those ladies spin around on their heels and run back towards the door. I couldn't stop laughing. :lol: Before I fell asleep for my afternoon nap I said me a little prayer of thank you to the Man upstairs.
In closing, if I offended you or anyone else with my joke (hence the LOL at the end but maybe I shoulda used a laughy face or something) I apologize. That wasn't the intent. Heck, I was laughing when I typed it. What you said was a bit harsh but I've heard worse so I choose not to be offended. It's all good.
Sweetpea, you're a real sweety!
That's how I got the nickname. Thank you. :kiss:
Here is what she said:
To me, that comes across as proudly patting herself on the back for following the rules and wanting to make sure everyone knows it. Add to that the glee with which she will rat someone out for violating a rule, and it very easily looks to me like the Judy character I referenced.
Like I said, I can see it if she's going down to the pool and the place is so crowded that she can't get in, or that she can't enjoy it because she's packed in like a sardine with all these other guests, and she finds out that many of them aren't there legitimately. At that point, the violaters are imparing her ability to enjoy an amenity that she paid for and I would have no problem if she were to blow the whistle in that case. But I have a problem with the black and white "rules are rules" approach which fails to take into account different circumstances which can render the rules moot or unnecessary, but instead takes pleasure and pride in blowing the whistle on anyone who breaks the rules.
I think you were still missing the "LOL". Sorry. I'll do the laughy faces more or make a big, bold:
Juuuuust kiddin'!
As previously stated, I'm no Judy but....ooohh....it makes me think of the Redneck Ninja on YouTube. If you haven't seen it go search "Redneck Ninja". You'll die laughing! "You got yer Ninjy chop....Yer Judy chop...." My kids show me the funniest stuff! :ROFLOL:
Look, I could be wrong. I am but a humble orangutan. But usually, when someone says they're going to do anything whilst "flail(ing) about," and then end it with "LOL" (which, if my nieces are telling me the truth, means "Laugh(ing) Out Loud"), I'm going to figure that person is not being 100% serious. And Judy was all business all the time. Honestly, how often do you brag about flailing about whilst doing ANYTHING? "Dude, I'm gonna hit the club, get my drink on, and then totally flail about the dance floor, arms akimbo, ululating like a banshee, the chicks'll be on me like mold on prison bread."
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You caught the LOL! I love you! Yes! You got the sarcasm and giggle. I hate that we can't get more inflection into posts. I'd have done a great physical act with that much like your flailing fella on the dance floor. Ooooh...it'd have been a hoot! :lol:
Point well taken although, on the other hand, you would surely agree that even when we jest, there is often alot of sincere thoughts expressed under the veil of joking.
And on an unrelated note, I'm pleased to see that I'm not the only one under 60 who is familiar with such classics as "Leave it to Beaver". I grew up watching alot of those re-runs and I tend to refer to TV references alot when trying to illustrate a point. Problem is, I suspect alot of the people I'm talking to aren't familiar with the show that I'm referencing and thus the analogy is meaningless. :lol:
Yep, I was joking and as stated above, it'd be mighty hard for me to actually do the flailing about making a scene since spending time by the resort pool isn't something we tend to do a whole lot of. It was truly a joke. Really. Sorry I wasn't more clear about that.
And does Leave it to Beaver come on anymore? I can only imagine what my boys would think. They roll their eyes and sigh whenever I bring old musical dvds home these days. I could ruin their liiiiives or show 'em what real tv is about with that show. It's a win-win for me, huh? LOL!
Sheesh! I didn't even know that pool hopping was against the rules. Only been once and never found out while I was there. This is the reason I asked the question.
Awwww...dangit. I'm sorry if I came off all harsh-n-stuff. I guess I did and I apologize. Hey. Big kuddos to you for asking the question. I'm a big subscriber to the statement "The only dumb question is the one not asked." Much like when I was little, I'm not real big on confrontation (unless it involves my kiddies) so if I came off all huffy or anything I'm sorry. I'm woman enough to admit that even IIIII screw up (see my life history above). Ya know, no matter what resort you choose...value, moderate, or otherwise...it's all Disney and you're there with your sweetheart. You'll have a fab time with lotsa wonderful memories to last a lifetime. Best wishes for good weather, small crowds, and buses that magically appear at each bus stop you approach! :sohappy: