Fantasmic!329
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I'm American, and I still can't get those games right! :lol:
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Can someone explain me football and baseball???
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Fantasmic!329 said:
That comforts me....
Victoria
Not old, just vintage.
barnum42 said:
Ack! What is all this in and out business?!?!?! Where are they going? I have never seen a game of cricket played so maybe that is the problem. Are they catching balls? Using sticks or something? Are a bunch of buys just running around on a field for no apparent reason?
Lol. :veryconfu
barnum42
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It is actually an accurate description, but written in a joke to be confusing manner.tiggerific418 said:
Like baseball, it is a bat and ball game, hit the ball to score runs. 11 players on each side, one team will be in to bat, the other fielding. Batsmen bat in pairs. When one of the pair is out, that one is replaced by the next man in the batting team and so on until they run out of players, then it is the other team's turn to bat. Whoever gets the most runs wins.
There are of course more rules to it - like how the runs are scored, how you can get out and the varying lengths of game - from a few hours to five days. And I am not kidding, international test matches last five days.
Fantasmic!329
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I honestly have no idea of what goes on while watching sports. :lol: :lookaroundisneytati said:
Erika said:
Thanks a lot, Erika!!!!! I AM going to move there someday. Even if it takes 20 years....
Fantasmic!329 said:
:lol: :lol: Me too!!! I have never been good at sports! At school, I always pretended I was sick not to play games at Phys Ed. Specially these ball games... Usually, kids play volleybal at school here, and I just hate it. Most of the times, the teacher would allow me not to play, but sometimes he would make me play. And guess what I did??? I just held the ball, like a goal keeper!!!!! At volleyball!!!!! The other kids were really ed, and kept asking the teacher to take me out of the game. And this way, I was allowed to stop playing.:hammer:
ctwhalerman
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American Football is easy to understand. Think of it as the product of an evolution from soccer (football).
Soccer begets rugby, as now there is much more physicality in the game, plus the ability to use hands, resulting in a try (or a score) when a player touches the oval-shaped ball in the defined zone at the whatever end of the field his team is attacking. There is no forward pass, and the throw in from soccer is replaced by the scrum, where both teams fight for the ball. It is still legal to kick the ball down the field to a player on your team, also.
Rugby soon begets American Football, which is much more structured than rugby, with set yard distances and stringent time periods to make plays, and instead of being able to move down the field in slow bursts, a team must make it in within 4 downs or they lose control of the ball. Everyone else here pretty much got the finer points of the game, but in essence the game is similar to rugby except for the fact that forward passes are allowed and kicking the ball ahead to your own team is no longer legal.
The first American football teams (Yale, Princeton, Columbia) were in effect soccer and rugby teams who just continued to tinker with the rules, resulting in the many similarities between the sports.
American football (and baseball, for that matter) is very easy to understand after a few viewings. Canadian football on the other hand....
Soccer begets rugby, as now there is much more physicality in the game, plus the ability to use hands, resulting in a try (or a score) when a player touches the oval-shaped ball in the defined zone at the whatever end of the field his team is attacking. There is no forward pass, and the throw in from soccer is replaced by the scrum, where both teams fight for the ball. It is still legal to kick the ball down the field to a player on your team, also.
Rugby soon begets American Football, which is much more structured than rugby, with set yard distances and stringent time periods to make plays, and instead of being able to move down the field in slow bursts, a team must make it in within 4 downs or they lose control of the ball. Everyone else here pretty much got the finer points of the game, but in essence the game is similar to rugby except for the fact that forward passes are allowed and kicking the ball ahead to your own team is no longer legal.
The first American football teams (Yale, Princeton, Columbia) were in effect soccer and rugby teams who just continued to tinker with the rules, resulting in the many similarities between the sports.
American football (and baseball, for that matter) is very easy to understand after a few viewings. Canadian football on the other hand....
barnum42
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Just to complicate matters - there are two codes of Rugby - Union (the original) and League. Union still has the throw in - called a line out.ctwhalerman said:
The scrum is not a fight for the ball - The two opposing sets of forwards will group together against one another, the ball is fed into the middle and passed to the back by the side that gets control of the ball
This pic kind of shows the line between the two teams
The "ruck" and the "maul" is a different matter - this happens in open play and is more like your description of "fighting for the ball" :lol: A ruck happens when the player with the ball has been grounded, mauls are when the player with the ball is still standing.
ctwhalerman said:
Curiously, to non-American eyes, American football is seen as happening in slow bursts - with all that resetting of the ball and time outs to swap players over whereas rugby is a continually flowing game (at least when you get to watch a decent match).
Also, rugby players are on for the whole game (two halves of forty minutes each). There are a limited number of substitutes and when a player is substituted for anything other than getting a blood wound dealt with they can not come back on. So no sitting on the bench for a breather when you get a little tired.
ctwhalerman
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barnum42 said:
It's funny, I played a year of rugby, and yet our coach just described everything as a "scrum." lol...Thanks for the real descriptions.
Plus I played wing (good old #14) so I pretty much was never involved in any of that, I just stood back and ran every now and then...
Oh, my God!!! That's even crazier.....
barnum42 said:
:veryconfu :veryconfu :veryconfu
ctwhalerman
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barnum42 said:
Yea we did, and I was never in any of them, but I must just say that we were so disorganized that I don't really even remember much of it. The team was pretty much an excuse for a group of guys to hang out in a crappy apartment getting drunk anyway.
barnum42
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Basically, a rugby side is split into the forwards and the backs. The forwards are the ones involved in the scrums, line outs, rucks and mauls whilst the backs wait for the forwards to pass the ball out to them to use their added pace and some space to run.disneytati said:
I played the position called "loose head prop" - I was on the front line of the scrum on the left. There are three players from each side at the front of the scrum. The front three lock heads with the opposite player from the opponents. The prop on the left has an opponents head to his right. The prop on the right has an opponents head either side - hence the one with one side free is called the "loose head" prop.
You can see the two front rows here getting ready to engage
Here is the formation of what goes on behind the front row.
Safari Giraffe
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barnum42 said:Basically, a rugby side is split into the forwards and the backs. The forwards are the ones involved in the scrums, line outs, rucks and mauls whilst the backs wait for the forwards to pass the ball out to them to use their added pace and some space to run.
I played the position called "loose head prop" - I was on the front line of the scrum on the left. There are three players from each side at the front of the scrum. The front three lock heads with the opposite player from the opponents. The prop on the left has an opponents head to his right. The prop on the right has an opponents head either side - hence the one with one side free is called the "loose head" prop.
You can see the two front rows here getting ready to engage
Here is the formation of what goes on behind the front row.
Looks too dangerous to me.........
barnum42
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Sadly there have been some serious injuries in the history of the game. I quit because it started to become an excuse for some to try and beat up people - a sly fist here, a careless boot stamp there....Safari Giraffe said:Looks too dangerous to me.........
When I played, I played hard but I played by the rules.
As you can see there are no solid crash helmets and vast quantities of padding, but you are only allowed to tackle the man with the ball, so there is not as much hitting as American football.
Safari Giraffe said:Looks too dangerous to me.........
Same here!:dazzle: