Cameron has given the OK ...

[twebber55]

"Mr. Cameron, we have a video of you and a dolphin that might interest you."

probably realized this was the only way to promote the two movies was to concede these plans and do the best he can with what was offered....although im disappointed with no bike coaster i do think the land will be incredibly immersive and well themed.... just wondering what type of themeing we will see outside of the show building if any..what will zholt hormay be doing

 

[EpcotFanForever]

Soaring Over Pandora and It's a Small Pandora - yes?

Yeppers

 

[RightTurnClyde]

There's a fine line between having fewer theaters with more seats, more theaters with fewer seats, and also cycle times.

They probably only have so much land they can allocate to the facility (especially if they do want to allow for a phase 2), so the footprint of the building is fixed. By putting the 4 theaters into this building, that limited them on how wide each ride apparatus could be.

With 4 theaters, the guests will feel as if the line never stops, because they'll be able to alternate loading between the 4 theaters almost continuously, based on the show length. Think of Haunted Mansion - while it's an omnimover, the queue isn't actually loading onto the omnimover. This would be similar to Stitch and HM - except with twice as many show rooms.

Could the change from three stacks to two have to do with the addition of 3D?

In the three stack system the outboard riders are a long way from the vertical center line axis of the screen.

Would 3D still work when the rider is that far off the center line?

 

[JCtheparrothead]

Is the general is the feeling that this announcement precedes the Dec 7th announcement to get everyone excited? Will the Dec 7th announcement have photos and more info attached for Pandora or is it something completely different?

 

[kapeman]

I'm curious as to why there isn't a second thread for the leaked docs discussion. It is very tedious trying to find where that topic starts in this thread.

 

[lazyboy97o]

In the three stack system the outboard riders are a long way from the vertical center line axis of the screen.

Would 3D still work when the rider is that far off the center line?

While it is in a smaller theater, Turtle Trek at SeaWorld Orlando allows one to look in nearly any direction while maintaining the 3D effect.

 

[LOSTllama]

While it is in a smaller theater, Turtle Trek at SeaWorld Orlando allows one to look in nearly any direction while maintaining the 3D effect.

IMHO, Turtle Treks effect is bad at best... Everyone in my ten person party had trouble watching the show and got headaches... Hopefully this design is nothing like that...

 

[Disneyhead'71]

IMHO, Turtle Treks effect is bad at best... Everyone in my ten person party had trouble watching the show and got headaches... Hopefully this design is nothing like that...

I honestly believe that "Disney Fans" simply do not have the ability to enjoy non-Disney offerings.

 

[GrumpyFan]

Screamscape had some interesting remarks and speculation about the leaks from last week.

the layout of the individual theaters, seem to feature a large circular screen, but also two more screens above the main screen that appear to have a gap of some kind in between them. Putting a “hole” in the middle of your view screen seems a bit crazy to me, at least in terms of a normal simulator style ride experience, so this may be something a bit out of the ordinary.

He also went to speculate the use of a potential ride technology called HEXaFLITE by a German company named SimTec.

 

[danlb_2000]

Screamscape had some interesting remarks and speculation about the leaks from last week.



He also went to speculate the use of a potential ride technology called HEXaFLITE by a German company named SimTec.

The layout of the screens as they appear in the plans was discussed earlier in this thread. It's very possible what they are calling "two more screens" is actually infrastructure behind the main screen and not really separate screens.

 

[SirLink]

Screamscape had some interesting remarks and speculation about the leaks from last week.



He also went to speculate the use of a potential ride technology called HEXaFLITE by a German company named SimTec.

But this is the same webmaster that said: "No no no its not Transformers! Nope Transformers isn't coming to Orlando! OMG Transformers is coming to Orlando!"

Looking at the building renders and Disney's fondness of using Vekoma based systems its more likely their flight simulator they would use in any case.

 

[GrumpyFan]

But this is the same webmaster that said: "No no no its not Transformers! Nope Transformers isn't coming to Orlando! OMG Transformers is coming to Orlando!"

spec·u·la·tion (sp

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a. Contemplation or consideration of a subject; meditation.
b. A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture.
c. Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition.

I believe that's all any of us in the community are capable of a this point, since these are all supposed leaked plans of an unknown attraction in an unspecified park.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I also thought that there may be two layers of screens (as can be seen in the leaked documents). I thought that it may be something like what's planned for the Hogwarts Express. I think calling it a Soarin' clone is likely inaccurate, what it may do though is make the current version of Soarin' obsolete.

 

[LOSTllama]

I honestly believe that "Disney Fans" simply do not have the ability to enjoy non-Disney offerings.

Far from the case, I enjoy all sorts of attractions... And the party I was with was not comprised of 'Disney fans'...

None the less, I hope that Disney does not utilize the same tech...

 

[GrumpyFan]

I think calling it a Soarin' clone is likely inaccurate, what it may do though is make the current version of Soarin' obsolete.

I agree that calling it a Soarin' clone is inaccurate, but calling the current version of Soarin' "obsolete"? I wouldn't go that far. Soarin's projection technology is certainly out of date and in desperate need of improvement and conversion to digital, but I think the ride technology itself is revolutionary in much the same sense as the omnimover technology was and still is. Like the omnimover, it has room for tweaks and alternate ways to use it, but I certainly would not call it obsolete.

 

[SirLink]

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a. Contemplation or consideration of a subject; meditation.
b. A conclusion, opinion, or theory reached by conjecture.
c. Reasoning based on inconclusive evidence; conjecture or supposition.

I believe that's all any of us in the community are capable of a this point, since these are all supposed leaked plans of an unknown attraction in an unspecified park.

Yes I understand the word - and I understand that Screamscape's webmaster likes to do speculation a lot even with strong factual evidence that suggests otherwise. Case in point the SS44 arguments he used to pull from thin air that it was going to be anything but Transformers.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I agree that calling it a Soarin' clone is inaccurate, but calling the current version of Soarin' "obsolete"? I wouldn't go that far. Soarin's projection technology is certainly out of date and in desperate need of improvement and conversion to digital, but I think the ride technology itself is revolutionary in much the same sense as the omnimover technology was and still is. Like the omnimover, it has room for tweaks and alternate ways to use it, but I certainly would not call it obsolete.

I should say that if they keep Soarin' Over California, it will likely be deemed obsolete. If Avatar is a higher resolution, 3D and 60 frames per second, they will have no choice but to upgrade Soarin'.

 

[GrumpyFan]

Yes I understand the word - and I understand that Screamscape's webmaster likes to do speculation a lot even with strong factual evidence that suggests otherwise. Case in point the SS44 arguments he used to pull from thin air that it was going to be anything but Transformers.

We can "discuss" Screamscape and whether or not they're believable off-line, if you wish. It's irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. The point I was trying to bring up for discussion was regarding the comments he made about what appeared to be another screen. I had not seen those comments made before, so I was curious what others' thoughts were.

 

[lazyboy97o]

IMHO, Turtle Treks effect is bad at best... Everyone in my ten person party had trouble watching the show and got headaches... Hopefully this design is nothing like that...

That's a rather personal disagreement. Was the 3D working? Turtle Trek was not Falcon's Treehouse's first time using this technology and they've been pretty well regarded shows that will likely only increase in number over the years as attractions seek to differentiate from technologies available for consumers.

 

[kap91]

That's a rather personal disagreement. Was the 3D working? Turtle Trek was not Falcon's Treehouse's first time using this technology and they've been pretty well regarded shows that will likely only increase in number over the years as attractions seek to differentiate from technologies available for consumers.

I've seen turtle trek, and I too think the effect is subpar - mainly because of the animation quality though, less because of the 3d effect. However, for whatever reasons the seams in the screen and the openings for the projectors are very visible and counter the 3d illusion - making it sort of hit and miss and disorienting at times, at least from where I was standing. There's a lot of potential there, but it probably could've used another year of development.