Bairstow
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Perhaps because he realized that Disney had called his bluff.
Cameron is probably not used to people letting him walk away from the table.
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Perhaps because he realized that Disney had called his bluff.
Cameron is probably not used to people letting him walk away from the table.
menamechris
Well-Known Member
Someone probably pulled out the long list of projects they have announced and never followed up on.
"Joke's on you, Cameron. We are Disney - we drop the ball all the time..."
nytimez
Well-Known Member
Certainly not like Disney to leave someone else's money on the table, either.
MerlinTheGoat
Well-Known Member
It is somewhat odd I agree. While Disney has certainly neglected WDW and its attractions lately and proven they don't like spending money, they don't seem to mind spending other people's money. GM reportedly paid for at least most if not all of the new Test Track refurb. Dunno why they'd turn down Cameron if he offered to pay for a lot of it.
I can only think of two reasons they'd do so. First is that what Cameron offered to pay wasn't enough to build what they wanted to do. This falls within the same reasoning that Bairstow stated. That might be the reason, though we've no idea what he was offering to Disney to keep the budget higher.
Second reason is just baseless speculation on my part. Could it be that Disney knew the ride would be somewhat complex and difficult to maintain, and so they didn't want to shoulder the responsibility necessary for proper upkeep of the ride? I'm not saying this is what has happened, but Disney has a very filthy record lately when it comes to ride maintenance (and they know it).
I mention my second theory based on how Disney has operated in the somewhat recent past (starting around the mid 90's). We've lost a number of classic attractions at both Magic Kingdom and Epcot because people in the Disney company didn't wish to pay to maintain them anymore or spend the money to fix issues with them. The original Imagination as well as 20,000 Leagues come to mind, both are reported to have been closed due to management not wishing to maintain them responsibly any more. Imagination specifically is stated to have had its visitors sabotaged and diverted to the 3D movie instead by the people in charge of management, just so they could use declining attendance figures as an excuse to downgrade the ride into something stupidly simple to maintain.
RSoxNo1
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I think it's safe to assume that whatever Disney orders from Vekoma will be customized. The information I was given indicated 16 seats per row, per bay. I hope that it's greater than that and they actually go with the stock model, at least for capacity purposes.Look at the computer rendering UNK posted. The rendering clearly shows 10 seats per row, 30 seats per vehicle. The photos show something different. It is possible the system is designed to hold 30 seats per vehicle, but the mock up design only shows half that. I think we should be taking the word of the company who actually designs the system.
Bairstow
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Perhaps Vekoma, being a Netherlands-based company, failed to initially design the ride system for the, er, American-sized people that frequent Disney parks.
RSoxNo1
Well-Known Member
Honestly that could be it. Disney attractions are typically "roomier" than most.
stevehousse
Well-Known Member
Does anyone think Avatar land boat ride could end up being an intamin water coaster, it's basically like a splash mountain kind of boat ride that leads to an elevator system to run through the coaster parts of the attraction. I think it would be cool if this was used for the boat ride. It could be greatly themed wih several lifts and coaster sections split up between AA scenes and such. Imagine this sucker indoors and how fun it can be!
http://www.youtube.com/embed/cHxqNFut2d8
http://www.youtube.com/embed/cHxqNFut2d8
invader
Well-Known Member
That would be very cool, I would actually like it better than a regular boat ride. The only bad thing is that it has low capacity.
Holy crap that could be awesome.
Lee
Adventurer
Nope. If the ride, labeled "C ticket" in the documents, is built...it will be just a simple boat ride. At most it would use the newly patetented underwater guide system to allow for more movement than the older boat rides.
Well, the newer or modified versions are. A lot of the attractions built back in the 70's didn't have to factor in for the obesity problem today in America.
EpcotFanForever
Active Member
JenniferS
When you're the leader, you don't have to follow.
Soaring Over Pandora and It's a Small Pandora - yes?
unkadug
Follower of "Saget"The Cult
perhaps it went in for moderation cleanup.MAGICALLY appeared after my post.....I dunno
Longhairbear
Well-Known Member
Wow.Yeah WDW has nothing. It's all about the Magic Kingdom ONLY. The other parks don't exist. The whole resort area is a wash
Typical Westcoaster attitude. Been there, done that, bought the DVD, Our park is better than your park, we have the original.
I love both resorts equally, I thought that I implied that. My main point was to say that I am concerned that Disney has some serious competition from Universal on both coasts, not Dl vrs WDW.
I take particular offense from you saying I have a westcoaster attitude. I am a member of Disney Vacation Club. That means that I thought highly enough of the Disney brand that I spent thousands of dollars upfront to spend my vacations at WDW. I bought that membership in 2003. That means I have gone to WDW annually, and sometimes twice a year to WDW. And yes, I have been there, done that over and over and over to the point of ad nauseum. I've been taking the same vacation for years. Same restaurants, same attractions, over and over with nothing new to stimulate our experience.
I said we spend our DVC vacations here in CA over the last few years because there is more to see locally, and saves us a ton of money spent on airfare. That doesn't mean we will never go to WDW again, of course we will. But as of right now, Universal Orlando is getting us more excited to stay at our Disney Vacation Club spending a few days at Universal, and the other Orlando area parks which naturally takes away the time we usually spend in the Disney parks.
I hope I have explained myself better.
"Mr. Cameron, we have a video of you and a dolphin that might interest you."