Cameron has given the OK ...

Mickey1984

Mickey1984

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What have I missed, I can't see anything ? All I see is white, white I tells ya! is it something do with snow? :D

Edit: since found the link posted to elsehwere, trawling twitter as well - exciting

Don't know if I am missing something, but why do people think this is Avatar related? Maybe i am not blowing them up big enough, as I can't really read the text.
 
LudwigVonDrake

LudwigVonDrake

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We can only hope that these plans change like the FLE plans changed from what was originally leaked. I have to think that Disney purposefully released these plans to get people talking and based off of feedback perhaps change things.
 
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Skyway

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WDW1974 said:
First, it was leaked intentionally.
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Spirit----

I buy into your conspiracy theory about the NYT/CBJ piece, because it makes financial sense for Disney to promote itself that way. But I don't understand how Disney would benefit by intentionally leaking these plans, if they really did.

To get the fan community excited? It's already been made clear the fan community's opinion doesn't mean anything to the company (and by your account, is openly being mocked in the NYT story). The fans are going to come no matter what.

To get picked up by mainstream media and shared with the general public? I doubt such a vague blueprint is going to improve the stock price much and give investors long-term confidence. And even if Joe Sixpack tourist in Ohio were to see this, would it really impact their decision when to book a Disney vacation? If anything, ANY "coming next" preview increases the risk a potential tourist will delay their upcoming vacation, something that is not in Disney's interest.

Ego battle with Universal? If that's the case, why leak plans? Just have a formal announcement with conceptual art, which Disney plans to do just before Universal's event.

Another way to look at this: how have leaked plans helped the company before? The FLE leak (which I believe was not intentional) actually put the company in an awkward position to rush their formal announcement before the design was finalized. There are plans floating out there now for the HP 2.0 expansion. How is Universal better off right now because a few theme park enthusiasts have some blueprints? How is that impacting current ticket sales, food purchases, and Universal's financial outlook?

I'm sure someone within the company had their own personal agenda for getting the Avatar plans out. But I just don't see why the company would back it.
 
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Skyway

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Still amazed at the hypocrisy on these boards. The same fans who think Avatar is a weak franchise are also upset that Disney has supposedly scaled back the budget. So you'd rather see Disney double-down on what you truly believe is a bad bet?
 
M.rudolf

M.rudolf

Well-Known Member
Skyway said:
Spirit----

I buy into your conspiracy theory about the NYT/CBJ piece, because it makes financial sense for Disney to promote itself that way. But I don't understand how Disney would benefit by intentionally leaking these plans, if they really did.

To get the fan community excited? It's already been made clear the fan community's opinion doesn't mean anything to the company (and by your account, is openly being mocked in the NYT story). The fans are going to come no matter what.

To get picked up by mainstream media and shared with the general public? I doubt such a vague blueprint is going to improve the stock price much and give investors long-term confidence. And even if Joe Sixpack tourist in Ohio were to see this, would it really impact their decision when to book a Disney vacation? If anything, ANY "coming next" preview increases the risk a potential tourist will delay their upcoming vacation, something that is not in Disney's interest.

Ego battle with Universal? If that's the case, why leak plans? Just have a formal announcement with conceptual art, which Disney plans to do just before Universal's event.

Another way to look at this: how have leaked plans helped the company before? The FLE leak (which I believe was not intentional) actually put the company in an awkward position to rush their formal announcement before the design was finalized. There are plans floating out there now for the HP 2.0 expansion. How is Universal better off right now because a few theme park enthusiasts have some blueprints? How is that impacting current ticket sales, food purchases, and Universal's financial outlook?

I'm sure someone within the company had their own personal agenda for getting the Avatar plans out. But I just don't see why the company would back it.
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Skyway to an extent I agree if this wasn't intentional this is a huge security breach. Too many people had them. At least 5 people went on the record as seeing them. I don't think Disney leaked them but I do think they let them be leaked I don't know of any realistic answer other than that.
 
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Walter Yensid

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I assume everyone has done this as I did not look through the whole thread, but simply go to Google and search for them...and all will see. Not sure if the full ones the insiders are talking about, but definitely a piece.
 
Pumbas Nakasak

Pumbas Nakasak

Heading for the great escape.
Skyway said:
Still amazed at the hypocrisy on these boards. The same fans who think Avatar is a weak franchise are also upset that Disney has supposedly scaled back the budget. So you'd rather see Disney double-down on what you truly believe is a bad bet?
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i bet you're surprised people vote in elections too
 
RSoxNo1

RSoxNo1

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Where did UncleWalt post the images and can anyone send me what he posted. I want to confirm whether or not they came from the same source that I received them from.
 
Disneyhead'71

Disneyhead'71

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The main reason for an intentional leak on this project is that EVERYONE has heard that it is either dead or on life support. It gets the word out that it's still kickin' and gets Disney a little positive buzz in this supposed Theme Park Wars.

But remember, we were well past this point with Hyperion Wharf and we all know how that turned out.
 
zooey

zooey

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Sorry, but this looks incredibly lame. It looks like Soarin/Mission Space--two rides that need updating of their own, not version 2.0 in another park. Just can't get pumped for this, Disney, so sorry. Build something else. I'll never understand why they can't just gaze to east and look at TDS and just point at ANYTHING there and say, "Let's just build that." I'd be 100x more excited for a mystically re-themed JTTCOTE. Le sigh. Another day in Disney disappointment.
 
marni1971

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
WED99 said:
I really hope this gets built! I personally think Pandora is a great idea, its dripping with potential! I am having a hard time trying to understand why it is receiving so much hate? Yeh the movie story was average but the setting and backstory was spectacular! Come on TDO, make the right choice!!!
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Hate? Because this is a cheap, cop out. Look for the Lightstorm version with launched coaster.

DCA gets Cars Land. Uni gets Potter x2. DAK gets this.
 
sshindel

sshindel

The Epcot Manifesto
That obviously can't be all of it, right? The plans in the corner show "FP03 Ride 1", and the boat ride seems to go off page rather quickly. This is the plans for 1 of the rides, with parts of a second partially on the page as well to show the interaction of the stairways, etc. This land will be more than this one little piece, so I am not sure how much I'm going to look into what I've seen so far. It shows a simulator ride and a boat ride will be a part, but obviously not the whole. Not saying that more rides will be added, but this is not the entire "land" as far as I can tell. Am I right about that?

Edit:
Rereading about Project Morpho, what these plans show is that it fits firmly in with that plan.
 
bubbles1812

bubbles1812

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RSoxNo1 said:
Where did UncleWalt post the images and can anyone send me what he posted. I want to confirm whether or not they came from the same source that I received them from.
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Flynnibus linked to a site in the uncle Walt thread. The images he posted are now up on that Epcot encyclopedia site. They were posted in that thread but they were pulled quick. Think if google avatar leaked images can see them too. That's how I found them
 

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