EricPZ
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That was my first thought too.
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Rumor Bye Bye (Tiki) Birdies?
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ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
The spending elsewhere is dwarfed by the stock buybacks which last year alone would have paid for all of SDL in one shot.
The stock buybacks do only one thing artificially inflate EPS so senior management can collect multi million dollar bonus payouts.
If they really wanted to increase returns to investors they could declare special dividends or increase the regular payout. The stock buyback benefits TWDC management directly and creates 'paper wealth' for regular stockholders.
The ONLY thing TWDC is really good at these days is financial engineering
BraveGirl
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Granted I haven't read every single post on this thread but I am surprised at how much I'm in the minority with my opinions on the Tiki room. I hate it! I also liked the "under new management" version better, and was disappointed when it switched back. I think while the opinions on this thread are overwhelmingly in favor of keeping it, that's likely not representative of the general population. People here are Disney purists, and I respect that (if they ever get rid of CoP I'll revolt!), but I think the general population thinks differently. I'm not surprised that this is on the chopping block. I have also seen people get up and walk out of the show midway through, and haven't been in a full theater in....I can't remember how long. Ever, maybe! I'm totally cool with this one going.
Clearly my opinion is not in line with all of you but those are my two cents
Clearly my opinion is not in line with all of you but those are my two cents
Tony the Tigger
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I don't mind that idea. But can't you hear half the people here crying about inserting a character into a classic attraction, and what a crime that is?
Bocabear
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Yes I can...but when the choice is to insert a new character, or lose the attraction completely, I am going to vote for refreshing the show and keeping the heart of the attraction intact...Maybe with a refreshed story it could hook some new generations..I don't mind that idea. But can't you hear half the people here crying about inserting a character into a classic attraction, and what a crime that is?
Buried20KLeague
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Buried20KLeague
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And with that, JT keeps his perfect streak alive!!! Congrats, JT! It takes a special person to be so consistant for so long.
Buried20KLeague
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Communist.
jt04
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As Martin regularly says he doesn't know everything, not even close. What I am suggesting would be at least a decade away. And possibly two CEOs. 10 years ago nobody would have predicted Pandora or Disney producing yearly Star Wars films either. So, not even the OP of this thread knows what the future holds.
Buried20KLeague
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Buffering your prediction by "at least a decade"? I suppose that's a safe way to avoid being called out for always being wildly off the mark.
Monorail_Orange
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More of the same. IIRC, as Spirit said of TDO several months ago, "and the latest from the Still Not Getting It department..." Their delusions as to how to operate a theme park are stunning. I'm starting to believe if this is their strategy they still fail to understand they have a severe capacity problem.
Admittedly, I enjoy the Tiki Room, always have, heck I even enjoyed UNM, even though it got a bit tired by the end of its run. In this case, removing Tiki Room is not a good a idea. It's classic and timeless. And I totally disagree with the notion that you don't feel some connection to Walt's original concept, even in it's current state in the swamps.
But to think they need to replace an arguably solid performing show rather than building something new, because TDO considers it a "distraction" rather than an attraction? We seem to be moving into new levels of asininity. Someone correctly stated above, giving people less to do will not result in a net gain in their spending, it will ultimately result in a net loss of guest satisfaction. And if TDO assumes that the rubes will always keep coming, those rubes go home and tell their rube friends not to bother...I think at some point, that adds up to significant attendance challenges ahead. This is just another (possible) step in that wrong direction.
Admittedly, I enjoy the Tiki Room, always have, heck I even enjoyed UNM, even though it got a bit tired by the end of its run. In this case, removing Tiki Room is not a good a idea. It's classic and timeless. And I totally disagree with the notion that you don't feel some connection to Walt's original concept, even in it's current state in the swamps.
But to think they need to replace an arguably solid performing show rather than building something new, because TDO considers it a "distraction" rather than an attraction? We seem to be moving into new levels of asininity. Someone correctly stated above, giving people less to do will not result in a net gain in their spending, it will ultimately result in a net loss of guest satisfaction. And if TDO assumes that the rubes will always keep coming, those rubes go home and tell their rube friends not to bother...I think at some point, that adds up to significant attendance challenges ahead. This is just another (possible) step in that wrong direction.
jt04
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I guess I was wrong about those gondolas I talked about almost 10 years ago too. Just my latest wild guess that came true. Martin has also said major expansions of TL, Frontierland and AL were in various stages of development. Not me. Sorry your meme is tired and without foundation. And I have better threads to post in.
Not AL. Not me.
SpoiledBlueMilk
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Well this is the worst news I've heard today. At the same time I don't get it. There is a ton of tiki merch out now - socks, posters, dresses and a Marvel comic. Why kill something off that is having a bit of a resurgence?
Buried20KLeague
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Guessing at things more than a decade away takes little effort, and gives you little risk at being called out for being wrong 10 years later.
For example... 10 years ago I would have predicted you would visit WDW within the next decade. And even though common sense would suggest one that posts here so often and believes they have their finger on the pulse of long-term resort development would meet my prediction, alas I was wrong. But since it would have been 10 years ago nobody would remember. So see? No risk.
As for any gondola prediction you may have made (which I would have to see to believe), you know what they say...
danlb_2000
Premium Member
You have mentioned pretty much every viable form of transportation in the past so you had all your bases covered.
jt04
Well-Known Member
Guessing at things more than a decade away takes little effort, and gives you little risk at being called out for being wrong 10 years later.
For example... 10 years ago I would have predicted you would visit WDW within the next decade. And even though common sense would suggest one that posts here so often and believes they have their finger on the pulse of long-term resort development would meet my prediction, alas I was wrong. But since it would have been 10 years ago nobody would remember. So see? No risk.
As for any gondola prediction you may have made (which I would have to see to believe), you know what they say...
Usually people use the broken clock analogies. Over and over and over. I apologize for saying Martin talked about AL. Perhaps another insider.
Buried20KLeague
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Buried20KLeague
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Did he claim hot air balloon yet? If not, I'd like to take that one. It's a long shot, I know... But the odds would pay well.