What about re recording the score and dialogue from the original WDW show with the highest quality musicians, sound effects, and voice actors available and then updating the entire show with the latest AA tech and running it another 50 years. What's wrong with doing that on both sides of the building? These are wonderful characters and scripts in their own right. Once upon a time Disney as a company believed in their audience enough to trust them with shows that had no connection to other IP. Making a bad sequel or rehash makes no more sense IMHO in the parks than it does in a theater. Not dissing you @Bocabear. I completely get your point and respect you for your opinion.
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Rumor Bye Bye (Tiki) Birdies?
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What about re recording the score and dialogue from the original WDW show with the highest quality musicians, sound effects, and voice actors available and then updating the entire show with the latest AA tech and running it another 50 years. What's wrong with doing that on both sides of the building? These are wonderful characters and scripts in their own right. Once upon a time Disney as a company believed in their audience enough to trust them with shows that had no connection to other IP. Making a bad sequel or rehash makes no more sense IMHO in the parks than it does in a theater. Not dissing you @Bocabear. I completely get your point and respect you for your opinion.
Bocabear
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I agree with you...That would be the best possible scenario...the audio on both this and CBJ are awful and need to really be redone with new technology...they could both be relevant and amazing shows.
lazyboy97o
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I predict that in 10 years Disney will hire a contractor, maybe even PCL, to pour some concrete.
Nj4mwc
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Whole heartedly agree about the phones, people are never not staring down at them
Monorail_Orange
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You're close, but here's a slight improvement: in both cases, digitally remaster the original scores and dialogues - not new "talent." For example, after hearing "Beauty and the Beast" sung by today's "Pop Stars" I can say that neither one of them can hold a candle to Angela Lansberry. (Yes, I realize that's just my opinion.)
Aww come on let's let Kid Rock whup Little Buford...I did use the term "musicians". Not pop stars.
rreading
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So I got through 27 generally appropriate pages of reaction, and I can't really disagree with anyone on this one:
Sure, some don't care for it; my wife and boy do - my daughter and I would rather ride Pirates again (we all enjoy TSI). But would I miss the fact of it, of course! But the fact that it is better at DL is a saving grace.
I can't believe no one has suggested the obvious: The Tiki Room needs to one-up DL and Epcot. If they keep the birds, and turn it into a bar/snack atmosphere, I would imagine that there would be some real hanging out there, and probably a bit of sing-along. Not a constant show, but the birds kick off a song here and there. Sure, it's drinking at MK, but that ship has sailed at this point. During a hot afternoon in the summer, stopping in for a Dole Whip with a kick? Sign me up!
Sure, some don't care for it; my wife and boy do - my daughter and I would rather ride Pirates again (we all enjoy TSI). But would I miss the fact of it, of course! But the fact that it is better at DL is a saving grace.
I can't believe no one has suggested the obvious: The Tiki Room needs to one-up DL and Epcot. If they keep the birds, and turn it into a bar/snack atmosphere, I would imagine that there would be some real hanging out there, and probably a bit of sing-along. Not a constant show, but the birds kick off a song here and there. Sure, it's drinking at MK, but that ship has sailed at this point. During a hot afternoon in the summer, stopping in for a Dole Whip with a kick? Sign me up!
monykalyn
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Do something along lines of The Adventurers Club?? Complete with "hire a teenager" to take your kids around to meet mickey and princesses for their photo-ops (that would require an upcharge and a cupcake though)
Buried20KLeague
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RoysCabin
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With the rumors that CoP will get some love soon, it does appear that they're sort of looking at CoP as the East Coast "Walt Original" (NY World's Fair connection) and Tiki Room as the West Coast one. Seems a bit silly, since the buildings that house the Tiki Rooms on each coast have different layouts and purposes that could be played up more in Orlando, but if I had to place a bet, that's where I'd put it.
But as for why people don't feel positive about what the Sunshine Pavilion could turn into, yeah...not for nothing, but the modern track record of taking Disney classics and turning them into something new have not panned out very well, by and large. That isn't to say that Disney is incapable of great things in the modern era, obviously, but the shift in themed entertainment in recent years toward the Universal "recreate the movies" format just feels off when it's applied to most Disney theme parks.
Still, no idea what this'll end up being, but given the recent track record my hopes are not especially high. Fingers crossed that it'll fit well in some way, some of the insiders here aren't going full gloom on it.
But as for why people don't feel positive about what the Sunshine Pavilion could turn into, yeah...not for nothing, but the modern track record of taking Disney classics and turning them into something new have not panned out very well, by and large. That isn't to say that Disney is incapable of great things in the modern era, obviously, but the shift in themed entertainment in recent years toward the Universal "recreate the movies" format just feels off when it's applied to most Disney theme parks.
Still, no idea what this'll end up being, but given the recent track record my hopes are not especially high. Fingers crossed that it'll fit well in some way, some of the insiders here aren't going full gloom on it.
Bocabear
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but if they are re-recording they should be done in the same styles, just recorded with modern equipment aka dubbing... so hopefully there would not be any stylistic change to any of the music...just a quality change.
Lets Respect
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I haven't read the whole thread yet but this is horrible news. For all of the reasons.
I also think there is such value in those little shows in each land (CoP, CBJ, Tiki, Philharmagic) where you can sit for 10 minutes in the AC and cool off.
I hope I get to see it one more time
I also think there is such value in those little shows in each land (CoP, CBJ, Tiki, Philharmagic) where you can sit for 10 minutes in the AC and cool off.
I hope I get to see it one more time
Bocabear
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there are no announcements from what I gather,. just some talkI haven't read the whole thread yet but this is horrible news. For all of the reasons.
I also think there is such value in those little shows in each land (CoP, CBJ, Tiki, Philharmagic) where you can sit for 10 minutes in the AC and cool off.
I hope I get to see it one more time
flynnibus
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I suggest every single person email app.support@disneyworld.com and ask that they add the Tiki Room and The Swiss Family Robinson Treehouse to the 'wait times' view in the MDE app. Get your friends to do the same. Maybe if enough people make noise, they will correct these omissions that negatively impact people's discovery of these attractions.
doctornick
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I'd be all for a Tiki room version of the Trader Sam's
MOXOMUMD
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That's my favorite part too. Ugh, I will miss it.
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er....did I miss something? Has there been an official announcement anywhere or is this still in rumor mode? I love the Tiki Room, was thrilled when the new management burnt and it was sort of restored....its a must do when I go to adventureland....followed closely by a dole whip....Stitch is still barely breathing and Tiki compared to that is a miracle. Since they have other space to reimagine I just cant see the logic in removing the Tiki room. Sure I would love love love to see the original at Disneyland, but don't see that trip in my future due to airfare alone. So hoping this rumor goes the way rumors usually go....nowhere.
Figments Friend
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I do get the impression sometimes that a lot of people in charge of the Parks now are forgetting how important it is to have various types of Attractions and experiences for Guests to enjoy.
The mix of different offerings is what makes the Parks so special, as there is literally something for everyone and any age bracket.
Every single experience does not need to be a mega-thrill or 'E-ticket'.
It is good to have some 'Ds' and 'Cs' in the mix, too.
This is one of the things I love so much about Disneyland out in sunny Southern California - that special 'mix' of thrills, mellows, and simple amusements.
When I'm feeling in the mood for a adrenaline rush, I'll visit one of the many 'Mountains' in the Park.
If I need a break but still want to enjoy some unique entertainment, I'll visit the Enchanted Tiki Room or another Show.
When I want to zone out and just relax, I'll sit on a bench and people watch or just enjoy the environment on Main Street or Fronteirland.
The 'lesser' Attractions and the 'major thrills' balance each other out and as a whole make for a wonderful varied experience.
Over the years, that mix has been slowly whittled away at WDW.
Simple pleasures or 'mellower' experiences are being phased out or just outright removed....benches included.
This messes with the balance I spoke of earlier, and what you end up with is a Park primarily full of a lot of thrill focused Attractions and retail / dining.
That is a Six Flags experience...not a Theme Park experience.
I'm not saying that is what the MK is now...but if they keep going in that direction it will feel like it in a few years.
The less intense or just plain leisurely experiences are becoming an endangered species now.
Someone within the upper ranks needs to be reminded that the 'smaller' less intense offerings are just as important as the thrills.
It's the entire package that makes a great experience.
I prefer the Disneyland original of the Enchanted Tiki Room, but I will be sorry to see WDWs version fly the coop if that does indeed end up happening.
I can only hope whatever fills that space afterwards is a worthy 'replacement'....and the outer building facade is kept.
It's a beautiful sight in Adventureland, and it would be a shame to lose that too.
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The mix of different offerings is what makes the Parks so special, as there is literally something for everyone and any age bracket.
Every single experience does not need to be a mega-thrill or 'E-ticket'.
It is good to have some 'Ds' and 'Cs' in the mix, too.
This is one of the things I love so much about Disneyland out in sunny Southern California - that special 'mix' of thrills, mellows, and simple amusements.
When I'm feeling in the mood for a adrenaline rush, I'll visit one of the many 'Mountains' in the Park.
If I need a break but still want to enjoy some unique entertainment, I'll visit the Enchanted Tiki Room or another Show.
When I want to zone out and just relax, I'll sit on a bench and people watch or just enjoy the environment on Main Street or Fronteirland.
The 'lesser' Attractions and the 'major thrills' balance each other out and as a whole make for a wonderful varied experience.
Over the years, that mix has been slowly whittled away at WDW.
Simple pleasures or 'mellower' experiences are being phased out or just outright removed....benches included.
This messes with the balance I spoke of earlier, and what you end up with is a Park primarily full of a lot of thrill focused Attractions and retail / dining.
That is a Six Flags experience...not a Theme Park experience.
I'm not saying that is what the MK is now...but if they keep going in that direction it will feel like it in a few years.
The less intense or just plain leisurely experiences are becoming an endangered species now.
Someone within the upper ranks needs to be reminded that the 'smaller' less intense offerings are just as important as the thrills.
It's the entire package that makes a great experience.
I prefer the Disneyland original of the Enchanted Tiki Room, but I will be sorry to see WDWs version fly the coop if that does indeed end up happening.
I can only hope whatever fills that space afterwards is a worthy 'replacement'....and the outer building facade is kept.
It's a beautiful sight in Adventureland, and it would be a shame to lose that too.
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disneyC97
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And ironically there are several shops in both Adventureland and Frontierland either closed or their interior floor space is now storage rooms.
monykalyn
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Done!