Rumor Brazil is the frontrunner for a new World Showcase Pavilion

[marni1971]

Within the same footprint? There is a whole expansion pad that just beyond that wall.

In the same theatre.

 

[smile]

And let’s not forgot what’s already gone. Body Wars. Cranium Command. Making of Me. Sum of all Thrills. Storm Struck. To name a few. Sticking to lowercase Epcot for accuracy.

in it's current state, i have a hard time not calling it epoct, tbh

Within the same footprint? There is a whole expansion pad that just beyond that wall.

what?...
and leave a perfectly good 'enough' theater to the kids?

 

[Daveeeeed]

Nemo was one of the longest waits on my last trip, and honestly, I’d be okay with not doing it again unless the wait is 0-10 minutes. IMO, it’s not a good ride, and the parts I care about are when the screens mesh with the real tanks.

I did both Test Track and M:S (Green) for the first time ever on the same trip, and I really enjoyed them! Both could be better, but I really did enjoy them. However, M:S isn’t helping the capacity issue at the park. I think the friend I did Green with and I waited 10 minutes. My friends who did Orange waited maybe 20. Test Track had over an hour wait at this point. M:S just needs something else to make it special.

Spaceship Earth needs to fix the descent. The screen portion was not great.

Living with the Land is probably one of my favorite rides at Epcot, but it needs an update for the 21st century.

Lastly... Imagination. This was the first trip ever for me that I didn’t step foot in the Imagination pavilion. I think the first and only time I rode Imagination was that first trip in 95, but my family always went to HIStA. I asked one of my friends if she wanted to go visit Figment (since the ride was a walk on), and she said no. So we didn’t. And neither did 95% of the people at Epcot. Disney needs to make Imagination 4.0 a priority.

I did all the attractions at Epcot last trip, and personally Figment is the single worst ride at WDW. Nemo is easily second.

Mission: Space Green is neat, but it's just that. The update was really nice to have.
Did Orange twice (first time I've ever done it), and I was amazed with the excessive warnings.
It's the coolest thing, and honestly a must-do, so long as you are not prone to motion sickness. I saw kids as young as 5, and adults in their 70's, and they were all enjoyed it. Just depends on if you get motion sick or not, really. Way better than Green. It feels so real. And in
January, when I was there, it routinely topped an hour, and Green was steady at around 15 minutes. Plus compared to Nemo and Figment, it actually dominates the capacity front. It's not for everyone, but it's really unique, and would be a tragedy to lose.

Figment was posted at 20, but it was more like 10 minutes, but absolutely terrible. Not only is it so bad, but knowing what was there before just is plain sad. There's not one thing in the entire ride that was interesting.

Nemo really could benefit from an absolute redo of the ride, and the entire pavilion getting rethemed, overhauled, and updated to Finding Dory could really make it standout. A second ride would also be nice. There is never a wait for this ride except for Christmas week pretty much, which routinely can get to an hour. Anyway, for the IP being so strong, you would think they would want a great attraction. Maybe they should just rip-out the entire ride, and make it part walk-through and part back to the old way, and just make a new educational Nemo ride. Maybe like Tokyo's 20K LUTS, but obviously it would have to have a new showbuilding. I'm surprised that haven't tried pursuing its potential.

Living With The Land like you said is outdated, but still a great ride. The low wait times are nice too.

Colortopia is I guess the last exhibit in Innoventions? It was a neat. I wish they would have realized an expo's true potential, but I'm excited to hear about the park's overhaul of the hub.

Soarin' is great as always, but it shouldn't be anchoring the park like it does. The land could use an update though.

Saw Circle of Life, interesting. It's time.

Impressions De France aws actually pretty awesome.

Mexico needs Coco, now!!

Spaceship Earth is ready for a new script, perhaps more endings to 'your future', and a few sets going down. Maybe things could interact with your decisions or something.

When people compare Test Track to Radiator Springs that's unfair, RSR is by far the winner: it's not even close, but that's not the point. Test Track is still a great ride on its own. Staying the same is probably the best option for now, but more information about everyone's designs would be nice,

Frozen: Ever After obviously doesn't fit, and it does have pacing issues, but it's still a worthwhile ride, so long as you get a Fastpass.

I think the best rides are
Spaceship Earth, Soarin', Test Track, and Mission: Space. For what it's worth, Frozen: Ever After as a ride is pretty good, and Living With The Land, Impressions De France, and The American Adventure, are great. After those it's a massive drop-off.

And to get back to Brazil: I really hope it happens!!!

 

[mikejs78]

Figment is the single worst ride at WDW. Nemo is easily second.

I don't know, Stitch's Great Escape is still technically not closed for Good....

 

[RSoxNo1]

...it think I see the problem

That's a hot take right there...

 

[Timothy_Q]

I don't know, Stitch's Great Escape is still technically not closed for Good....

If we’re being technical, he did say ride, not attraction

 

[Fox&Hound]

I wish we had Soarin 1.0 and Test Track 1.0 to be honest- I cannot help but feel like a lot was lost with those “updates”....excited for the new attractions and hope they come to their senses and add a ride/experience with Brazil.

 

[Princess Leia]

Soarin' 1 should have been left at DCA. Soarin' 2 makes sense for Epcot... but I miss the smell of oranges

 

[TheDuke]

Soarin' 1 should have been left at DCA. Soarin' 2 makes sense for Epcot... but I miss the smell of oranges

I finally did the new Soarin' on my last trip and I specifically was disappointed that the orange grove sequence wasn't there. Maybe the ride was exaggerated in my memory (or I was spoiled from just doing FoP at Animal Kingdom) but the simulator aspects with movement didn't feel as good on the new ride.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Soarin is a mid level thrill simulator...that's the thing. It's not appropriate as a park "anchor"

...it's kinda a microcosm of what's been lacking in parks these last 20 years - and Epcot in particular. Just saying.

 

[Daveeeeed]

I wish we had Soarin 1.0 and Test Track 1.0 to be honest- I cannot help but feel like a lot was lost with those “updates”....excited for the new attractions and hope they come to their senses and add a ride/experience with Brazil.

I feel like Test Track 1.0 was the superior attraction in the 'fun' aspect. The new one just does not capture it as well, but it did need an update, and it's still a great ride that fits in EPCOT.

While I miss the original, Soarin' Around The World is a far better fit for Epcot.

 

[mikejs78]

I feel like Test Track 1.0 was the superior attraction in the 'fun' aspect. The new one just does not capture it as well, but it did need an update, and it's still a great ride that fits in EPCOT.

While I miss the original, Soarin' Around The World is a far better fit for Epcot.

This. Both TT #2 and Soarin #2 are slightly inferoir to their originals, both actually fit better with Epcot.

 

[Daveeeeed]

I finally did the new Soarin' on my last trip and I specifically was disappointed that the orange grove sequence wasn't there. Maybe the ride was exaggerated in my memory (or I was spoiled from just doing FoP at Animal Kingdom) but the simulator aspects with movement didn't feel as good on the new ride.

Flight of Passage it very different. It's only comparable because of the multi-level setup. You are pushed further to the center of the screen in FoP. Also, on FoP it's supposed to be one take vs. Soarin' is about seeing sight moreso than feeling like being there if you know what I mean. Both excellent attractions, but FoP with its far more immersive theming make it the next level.

Soarin is a mid level thrill simulator...that's the thing. It's not appropriate as a park "anchor"

...it's kinda a microcosm of what's been lacking in parks these last 20 years - and Epcot in particular. Just saying.

It's not only about thrill.
It's about the scale of the attraction and its purpose. E-tickets like Star Tours, Soarin', and Toy Story Midway Mania are awesome rides, but they cannot anchor a Disney park like they are being forced to do in Orlando. Thus, the insane wait times. In DCA, TSMM & Soarin' are viewed as awesome E-ticket rides, but they are secondary there because of rides like Radiator Springs Racers, and an abundance of rides through the park giving DCA a good ride capacity. In Orlando, they are the top tier attraction in their parks.


Think of rides like POTC (DL, DLP, Shanghai), Journey to The Center of the Earth, Radiator Springs Racers, Splash Mountain (WDW), The Tower of Terror (WDW), Flight of Passage, Kilimanjaro Safaris, Mystic Manor, TRON, and The Great Movie Ride. Those are anchors. They may not be your favorite rides, but they certainly are important to the park.

 

[Daveeeeed]

This. Both TT #2 and Soarin #2 are slightly inferoir to their originals, both actually fit better with Epcot.

Spot on.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I think Test Track 2.0's pre show screams EPCOT Center. I'd love to be able to design cars from home and bring them into the park. The problem arises when you get on the ride. The significance of those designs goes away. You have large monitors along the track that are incredibly underutilized. Our designs should appear on those screens and possibly be shown going through similar tests/racing us. That would definitely feel like classic EPCOT Center to me.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Don't know about that. Doesn't Epcot have a much greater capacity? And if Epcot had an E-Ticket in each of the FW pavilions and a bunch of C & D rides in WS, I bet it would surpass MK. I think that's the direction they'll eventually go in, hopefully. The focus on "family-friendly" in the new rides should draw in families with children as well as retain the more mature crowd.

You are right. EPCOT is huge and can swallow up the crowds. Tron would have fit nicely where WiL used to be and would be next to Tron Test Trak. That would give you GorG roller coaster, Tron roller coaster, Mission Space And Test Trak On one side. Figment and the movie theatre need help big time. Fix Future World First then go from there.
It will ge nice if there are two more attractions invWS to balance it out.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You are right. EPCOT is huge and can swallow up the crowds. Tron would have fit nicely where WiL used to be and would be next to Tron Test Trak. That would give you GorG roller coaster, Tron roller coaster, Mission Space And Test Trak On one side. Figment and the movie theatre need help big time. Fix Future World First then go from there.
It will ge nice if there are two more attractions invWS to balance it out.

Yeah...problem is your talking about 10 figures worth of budgets to execute that plan even if it's streamlined.

 

[MisterPenguin]

While I miss the original, Soarin' Around The World is a far better fit for Epcot.

It would fit better if it highlighted all the countries represented in WS. In that case, Epcot's Soarin' would be a show unique to Epcot. Such an update would be the chance to fix the Eiffel Tower problem by presenting it from a different angle and further away.

 

[KrazyKat]

Wonder if they’ll ever bring back Soarin’ 1 for maybe an anniversary of the attraction which I would imagine wouldn’t be too hard to do? It’s just a matter of swapping the movie and reprogramming.

 

[mikejs78]

It would fit better if it highlighted all the countries represented in WS. In that case, Epcot's Soarin' would be a show unique to Epcot. Such an update would be the chance to fix the Eiffel Tower problem by presenting it from a different angle and further away.

It would be better if this were the case, but as it is, the highlighting of different nations is more in line with Epcot than Soarin around California.

Frankly, I don't know why they didn't keep Soarin' Over California in DCA - it's a perfect fit for that park, and the new Soarin' Around the World is not a great fit for that park.