It actually carried on for a while with no sponsor. Then uncle Bob decided he wouldn’t pay.
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Rumor Brazil (and maybe others) Pavilion Coming to Epcot [not about Brazilian people nor a country wish list]
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Sir_Cliff
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I can understand why they would struggle to find companies to sponsor the whole pavilion. The old EPCOT sponsorship model seems dead. It does surprise me, though, that they can't find outside vendors to sign lucrative leases for a Brazilian churrascaria or perhaps a Havianas store that would help pay for the construction and upkeep of the pavilion. Some kind of branding/sales deal for Brahma beer would also seem like something Anheuser-Busch would consider. Who knows, maybe not.
Without a ride, the pavilions are not that different from miniature malls, if we're honest. Shouldn't be that hard to get it to make sense financially.
Josh Hendy
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Tourism is bigger than ever. International business investment is bigger than ever. I don't believe that sponsorship doesn't work in a park like Epcot. It's viable in both in Futureworld and in International Showcase.
I believe the "sponsorship doesn't work" meme is propagated by bean counters focused on easy, short term profits based IP based merch, not by visionaries who take a long term view of guest experience.
Many people love Epcot more than any other park, specifically because of the scientific-cultural theme. Turn it into a pale imitation of MK or DHS and these people are not going to be as attracted to WDW.
I believe the "sponsorship doesn't work" meme is propagated by bean counters focused on easy, short term profits based IP based merch, not by visionaries who take a long term view of guest experience.
Many people love Epcot more than any other park, specifically because of the scientific-cultural theme. Turn it into a pale imitation of MK or DHS and these people are not going to be as attracted to WDW.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
That’s always what it comes down too. I think you know this has been a revolving door since 1983.
I’m not saying anything you don’t know
It Just never works out.
Disney has always wanted severe terms in longterm financial support...which always ends up being the deal killer.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
jt04
Well-Known Member
As opposed to sponsors or foreign entities. Like TSL or GE.
It is time for people to move beyond the notion WS is a place of great cultural influence and enlightenment.
Unleash Imagineering for some 'sketch on a napkin' ideas to a full-fledged new land. WS expansion pads are the perfect blank canvas.
Strictly my opinion of course.
Imagineering designed the Brazil Pavilion.
jt04
Well-Known Member
Fantastic. But it is still within parameters as requested by outside interests. I'm all for new pavilions but they never seen to make it past the concept/design phase.
Fictional lands (IE Atlantis for those not tracking) could be entirely in-house. I'm thinking something like Pandora on a smaller scale and strictly WDI designed.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
But that’s why this doesn’t happen...the overhead is so high on Epcot that they will never abandon the model and accept all the costs to run new pavilions...and doing “world of Mickey” next to Germany would just be stupid.
It’s a prison of their own making
As they did the Spain, Australia, Russia, Israel and Greek pavilions...
Josh Hendy
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It isn't tremendously enlightening. But it's "enlightening enough" to attract many people to WDW who consider fairy tale and superhero based attractions to be too frivolous to justify a vacation in Orlando.
My sister-in-law for example who teaches French in high school. She loves reading and international travel visiting cathedrals, castles, museums and stuff. Epcot with its faux France and fake Germany was the only WDW park she really enjoyed. There are a lot of people like that, who are embarrassed to tell their friends they went on a vacation mostly to see Mickey Mouse and Star Wars characters. But sipping wine and watching mimes and whatever is just their thing.
jt04
Well-Known Member
But that’s why this doesn’t happen...the overhead is so high on Epcot that they will never abandon the model and accept all the costs to run new pavilions...and doing “world of Mickey” next to Germany would just be stupid.
It’s a prison of their own making
As they did the Spain, Australia, Russia, Israel and Greek pavilions...
They have already added Frozen and Rat so anything is possible at this point. Like I said, traditional pavilions are great but never seem to happen. So a new direction seems like a reasonable solution.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Yeah...that’s not the way to go...but I think you know that.
Anyway...both those are repurposes to a degree...I can’t see them opening country ______ on a new pad solo...
But it’s just a hunch....backed by 32 years of history
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
And variety insulates the property from any general change in audience tastes...things ebb and flow but SOMETHING is always there as a draw
No, it was designed beforehand and the companies were invited to sponsor all or part of what was offered.
This one came so close. Probably as close as Africa did.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
britain
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That means in a decade or so expect South America to be added to DAK!
WEDway Inc & Company LLC
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Equatorial Africa was less than a month from starting construction when it got pulled.
FYI.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Who’s your source?
