Brad Rex is out

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Let me make it very clear. I am sorry to hear some of the piling on for some Disney management/senior management. There are a lot of good people working there, some great people, and I appreciate the number of people that have posted here recognizing the positive and letting others know that we in fact may be loosing something with his departure.

OK?
It wasn't a shot against you -- I just found it funny that it could be taken either way. Nobody is ragging on you. Read it again yourself from the other point of view. If you don't find that funny, sorry I accidently hurt your feelings. If you do find it funny, welcome to the club. Again it wasn't meant to be a mean post, sorry it sounded that way.
 

imamouse

Well-Known Member
EPCOT's early closing of Future World, the lack of promoting the 25th Anniversary of the park, these are poor choices that deserve removal of management. EPCOT needs a major revitalization to the overall park. SE sounds like its a good point. Innoventioins and the entire connectivity to Future World's theme need to be reestablished along with rides/shows/attractions being added to World Showcase along with a new nation or two would really revitalize EPCOT. I can see why EPCOT's management is being dumped. My only concern is that this is for the better.

I suspect that the park operating hours and celebrations are influenced, in part if not completely, by the finance department (with a little help from marketing). Park hours are a matter of the point of diminishing returns. At some point, it costs more to keep the park open (wages, utilities, etc) than to make the hard decision to close earlier. Marketing is most likely driving decisions regarding special events, anniversaries, etc. R & D is consulted regarding expansion. It's a huge corporation with lots of cogs in the wheel.

Park managers are responsible for daily operating of their respective parks. Not decisions regarding the overall strategy and direction of said parks.
 

Timmay

Well-Known Member
Dude Test track is almost 10 years old and and Mission:Space is almost 5..both of them are less than stellar and when they are eventually replaced they will not be as rememberd as fondly as the rdies they themselves replaced (Horizons and World of Motion).

According to you, right? Because that sure isn't the case with me and others I know.

I always get a good laugh at the disdain shown to upper management...as if these educated people make all of their decisions in a vacuum.:rolleyes: Yes, some of their choices are wrong. I get that. I just don't suffer under the delusion I could run the parks better.
 

Rayray

New Member
According to you, right? Because that sure isn't the case with me and others I know.

I always get a good laugh at the disdain shown to upper management...as if these educated people make all of their decisions in a vacuum.:rolleyes: Yes, some of their choices are wrong. I get that. I just don't suffer under the delusion I could run the parks better.

Well put. So many people are using Rex as a scapegoat in this thread. I don't know the guy, so I don't see why I should judge his work. It's not like he makes every single decision for the WDC.

BTW, I have ridden both WOM and Test track. I absolutely favor TT to WOM. I love MS, too. Just because the ride is old and may have some nostalgia attached to it doesn't mean it is better for everyone.
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Well put. So many people are using Rex as a scapegoat in this thread. I don't know the guy, so I don't see why I should judge his work. It's not like he makes every single decision for the WDC.

BTW, I have ridden both WOM and Test track. I absolutely favor TT to WOM. I love MS, too. Just because the ride is old and may have some nostalgia attached to it doesn't mean it is better for everyone.
I say bring on Project Gemeni and scrap SSE too. I'd rather have Horizons than that boring snorefest. I know it's deep and means something. Means something boring.
 

ClemsonTigger

Naturally Grumpy
It wasn't a shot against you -- I just found it funny that it could be taken either way. Nobody is ragging on you. Read it again yourself from the other point of view. If you don't find that funny, sorry I accidently hurt your feelings. If you do find it funny, welcome to the club. Again it wasn't meant to be a mean post, sorry it sounded that way.

Not a problem and no offense taken.
I have been known to be as sarcastic as any here, but it wasn't my intent, so I wanted to make that clear. After rereading, I still find it hard to take both ways...then again, having written it ruins my objectivity.

PS Part of the problem may be that I didn't want it to link to the little pi$$ing match that was going on....:o
 

EpcotMark

Active Member
Just read on Miceage that Brad Rex is stepping down this week. So much for Mr. "There will be no Epcot 25th. anniversary" bigshot. I hope Rasolu and Al Wiess are next. We need real visionaries to revamp Epcot Center not these lazy goons.


Why is there no link?
 

JimboJones123

Well-Known Member
Not a problem and no offense taken.
I have been known to be as sarcastic as any here, but it wasn't my intent, so I wanted to make that clear. After rereading, I still find it hard to take both ways...then again, having written it ruins my objectivity.

PS Part of the problem may be that I didn't want it to link to the little pi$$ing match that was going on....:o
Sorry again, the whole thing makes me kinda sick too. Guess people can feel as brave as they want behind the veil of the internet.
 

Xadllas

New Member
I never stated that all attractions needed to be e-ticket or character based, I was merely running with the attractions previously mentioned.

And what's wrong with character based attractions? Aren't the characters part of what makes Disney as a whole so loveable? Whether they're in the movies, the parks, or the rides, Disney characters are a huge part of the magic for alot of people. I see no problem with character based rides, although I also can understand the desire for more original rides.

But think about some of the recent additions to the parks:
Soarin', E:E, Mission: Space, Test Track - none of these are character based
Finding Nemo, the Laugh Floor, Stitch's Great Escape - these are still great attractions (although I hate Stitch's Great Escape)
Soarin is a clone (I hate it as stated before), Missions: Space half baked ride to please thrill junkies (I hate it too), Test Track the only acceptable thrill ride out of the 3 put into Epcot. Finding Nemo (I'm support due to it brought back the seacabs in a way), Laugh Floor (I'm not too happy with because it replaced Time Keeper and doesn't belong in Tomorrowland), and Stitch is half baked, not too well planned out and isn't what I'd call a show kids could really enjoy without being afraid of the dark and sudden noises. What I'm saying is, why can't we have some new additions that are not character based and not an e ticket all in one again. Answetr I always get its not what sells. Well you know what, Walt and the Imagineers DID NOT go by what the people wanted, people wen't in and loved what he and his imagineers created for Disneyland, by putting in all these character based attractions they are ruining the parks and their image and not to mention storylines. And by puting in more of them isn't helping it! The people going to the parks for the first time now a days are gonna think all Dinsey can do is put movie based attractions in their parks and not think there was more than that in the past. I am ok with a few every now and then but its not right when everything coming out of WDI is nothing but Characters. If by doing nothing but throwing logs in the fire is all that Disney is going to do then they need a real wake up call. Why can't we have maybe some new countries in World Showcase? Why can't we have the original Enchanted Tiki room back? Why can't Disney put something better in the 20k lot than a cheap playground? Why can't Disney come up with any original ideas anymore is the real question. Whatever happened to the imagination in Imagineering? Eisner has been gone for awhile now and though i have seen alot of improvements at the parks its still not enough. So why can't Disney create great originals like the Haunted Mansion or Horizons? Because they choose not too, simple as that.
 

ImaYoyo

Active Member
Just curious...

Are you saying the 100 million dollar Expedition Everest is not an original idea?
It seems to me it's not character based and completely original.

Just a thought.

Soarin is a clone (I hate it as stated before), Missions: Space half baked ride to please thrill junkies (I hate it too), Test Track the only acceptable thrill ride out of the 3 put into Epcot. Finding Nemo (I'm support due to it brought back the seacabs in a way), Laugh Floor (I'm not too happy with because it replaced Time Keeper and doesn't belong in Tomorrowland), and Stitch is half baked, not too well planned out and isn't what I'd call a show kids could really enjoy without being afraid of the dark and sudden noises. What I'm saying is, why can't we have some new additions that are not character based and not an e ticket all in one again. Answetr I always get its not what sells. Well you know what, Walt and the Imagineers DID NOT go by what the people wanted, people wen't in and loved what he and his imagineers created for Disneyland, by putting in all these character based attractions they are ruining the parks and their image and not to mention storylines. And by puting in more of them isn't helping it! The people going to the parks for the first time now a days are gonna think all Dinsey can do is put movie based attractions in their parks and not think there was more than that in the past. I am ok with a few every now and then but its not right when everything coming out of WDI is nothing but Characters. If by doing nothing but throwing logs in the fire is all that Disney is going to do then they need a real wake up call. Why can't we have maybe some new countries in World Showcase? Why can't we have the original Enchanted Tiki room back? Why can't Disney put something better in the 20k lot than a cheap playground? Why can't Disney come up with any original ideas anymore is the real question. Whatever happened to the imagination in Imagineering? Eisner has been gone for awhile now and though i have seen alot of improvements at the parks its still not enough. So why can't Disney create great originals like the Haunted Mansion or Horizons? Because they choose not too, simple as that.
 

jiminy.cricket

Well-Known Member
Let's face it, his head was too big and his arms were too short.

Oops... sorry... wrong Rex.

Wakka wakka...wah...waaaaaaaah.
:lol:

Seriously, sad to see Mr. Rex go! Seems like an intelligent and kindred soul. In his defense, he's been trained in every role at Epcot, and helped bring Siemens (another supposedly great company!) to Spaceship Earth. I imagine it must be really stressful running a theme park. What's wrong with Phil Holmes and the guy at Disney MGM?

Also, why is management changing?
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Well it appears Phil is going to be fired as well as part of a management shuffle at WDW.

Oh and the word broke in the WDW section of the Miceage message board for those of you who want to read it. The guy who posted is very reliable and someone else confirmed it.


This is good news for the parks!
My source (who is also reliable) told me that all 4 park VP's are out, new blood is coming in. Brad Rex has allegedly already received an offer elsewhere.

Nothing else to report... gotta go :)
 

Lee

Adventurer
Are you saying the 100 million dollar Expedition Everest is not an original idea?
It seems to me it's not character based and completely original.

Yep. I agree. As is pretty much all of AK.
Character based attractions are nothing new, and will be around forever. The general public wants characters, and Disney will give it to them.
The average tourist didn't want Horizons...they prefer Mission:Space, and I agree with them. Soarin? No characters and the most popular ride on property. Perfect.

Tiki room....nope. No defense for that.:lol:
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
My source (who is also reliable) told me that all 4 park VP's are out, new blood is coming in. Brad Rex has allegedly already received an offer elsewhere.
Well they DO all need to go--especially Phil and Mike. I don't really have anything against the lady at Animal Kingdom, but then again...all those broken Everest effects...I would imagine it's her job to budget for keeping those working (along with Kilimanjaro's poor state).
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Well they DO all need to go--especially Phil and Mike. I don't really have anything against the lady at Animal Kingdom, but then again...all those broken Everest effects...I would imagine it's her job to budget for keeping those working (along with Kilimanjaro's poor state).
her name is Beth Stevens :)
 

Xadllas

New Member
Just curious...

Are you saying the 100 million dollar Expedition Everest is not an original idea?
It seems to me it's not character based and completely original.

Just a thought.
Everest isn't new anymore! Get over it. It opened over a year ago and there have been alot of new addtions that have opened after it. Sure its original and I don't mention it because its not new anymore and its a e ticket. If you had read what I said before Why can't we have an original attraction that isn't character based and not an e ticket than you wouldn't have mentioned Everest would you?.
 

ImaYoyo

Active Member
Everest isn't new anymore! Get over it. It opened over a year ago and there have been alot of new addtions that have opened after it. Sure its original and I don't mention it because its not new anymore and its a e ticket. If you had read what I said before Why can't we have an original attraction that isn't character based and not an e ticket than you wouldn't have mentioned Everest would you?.
My appologies for thinking that an attaction that is 365 days old is not 'new'. I will not make that mistake again. You're probably right. Disney should build a non-character attraction every 3 months. Then I'd go a lot more. I'm sure that's what everyone here is thinking too. Thank you for setting me straight, I appreciate it.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
Everest isn't new anymore! Get over it. It opened over a year ago and there have been alot of new addtions that have opened after it. Sure its original and I don't mention it because its not new anymore and its a e ticket. If you had read what I said before Why can't we have an original attraction that isn't character based and not an e ticket than you wouldn't have mentioned Everest would you?.
Wouldn't that potentially bankrupt Disney and cause the parks to implode in a cloud of popularity? You know, a new attraction every 364 days (cause you know that everything over 365 days is old, especially a 15 year old brat).

This is Disney, not Cedar Point. They build 1 new coaster each year, which costs pennies in R&D, maintenance and marketing compared to what a new Disney e-ticket costs. Disney won't build a new one each year because they need to recoup the investment that the last one cost.

Disney is a company, not your little doll whose clothes you can change it whim. Grow up.
 

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