Brad Rex is out

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
HEY! Be nice to Meg Crofton! She's actually been doing a good job, you know.

Really really? She's not much more than a talking head as far as I can see. Proof that with enough nepotism (among other things) anyone can be a success.

:kiss:
 

Xadllas

New Member
Wouldn't that potentially bankrupt Disney and cause the parks to implode in a cloud of popularity? You know, a new attraction every 364 days (cause you know that everything over 365 days is old, especially a 15 year old brat).

This is Disney, not Cedar Point. They build 1 new coaster each year, which costs pennies in R&D, maintenance and marketing compared to what a new Disney e-ticket costs. Disney won't build a new one each year because they need to recoup the investment that the last one cost.

Disney is a company, not your little doll whose clothes you can change it whim. Grow up.
You know what the only reason I'm so fed up is because I'm sick of Disney Screwing with everything I loved and charished at the Parks. I am alowed to have my own opinion Thank you very much. And you know what I'll be a brat right now and whenever I please so enjoy it. I'm sorry if I'm sick of seeing the parks go down the drain and Don't ever think I've mistaken Disney for Cedar point. I personally think Everest is old, and that Disney just put it there to please thrill junkies and Disney fans for them not to complain that they're loosing their touch. I'm sorry if I expect more out of Disney when they have done better, and all they can throw out now is marketing when people don't go to the parks because they want to see some new half baked character based attraction, they're are going for the Disney experience and the classic attractions. This whole still praising Everest crap is a bunch of bull to me. When thats the last original thing they will put out for years except for the updates at Epcot. I don't care if they spent all this money on it, they need to move on and start actually "Imagineering" again. I really don't see what is so creative about taking one scene from a movie and making it an attraction. Or taking a whole movie and making it, its own land (Carland DCA). If you think they deserve an award for these attractions go ahead and think so. But I don't so I hope you enjoyed the rambling of a "15 year old brat" Have a magical Day! :wave:
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
You know what the only reason I'm so fed up is because I'm sick of Disney Screwing with everything I loved and charished at the Parks. I am alowed to have my own opinion Thank you very much.

Yes. You can have an opinion. But when you start bashing people and their life's work, you should have a little info to back it up with. You still haven't pointed out one specific, solid reason why you dislike either Mr. Rex or Eisner. Them 'screwing with the parks' and tarnishing your memories is not a reason to belittle their work. There are many things about running a theme park or mutli-million dollar corporation that I guarantee no one on this board knows about, since I feel I can safely bet that no one on this board either runs a huge theme park nor runs a multi-million dollar corporation. Please let me know if I'm wrong on that though.

Change is a part of life. Like it or not, you have to deal with it to keep living.
 

tigger1968

Well-Known Member
You know what the only reason I'm so fed up is because I'm sick of Disney Screwing with everything I loved and charished at the Parks. I am alowed to have my own opinion Thank you very much. And you know what I'll be a brat right now and whenever I please so enjoy it. I'm sorry if I'm sick of seeing the parks go down the drain and Don't ever think I've mistaken Disney for Cedar point. I personally think Everest is old, and that Disney just put it there to please thrill junkies and Disney fans for them not to complain that they're loosing their touch. I'm sorry if I expect more out of Disney when they have done better, and all they can throw out now is marketing when people don't go to the parks because they want to see some new half baked character based attraction, they're are going for the Disney experience and the classic attractions. This whole still praising Everest crap is a bunch of bull to me. When thats the last original thing they will put out for years except for the updates at Epcot. I don't care if they spent all this money on it, they need to move on and start actually "Imagineering" again. I really don't see what is so creative about taking one scene from a movie and making it an attraction. Or taking a whole movie and making it, its own land (Carland DCA). If you think they deserve an award for these attractions go ahead and think so. But I don't so I hope you enjoyed the rambling of a "15 year old brat" Have a magical Day! :wave:

I get the feeling that trying to argue with you about how off base you are would be about as productive as shouting at a brick....:rolleyes:
 

Scar Junior

Active Member
You know what the only reason I'm so fed up is because I'm sick of Disney Screwing with everything I loved and charished at the Parks. I am alowed to have my own opinion Thank you very much. And you know what I'll be a brat right now and whenever I please so enjoy it. I'm sorry if I'm sick of seeing the parks go down the drain and Don't ever think I've mistaken Disney for Cedar point. I personally think Everest is old, and that Disney just put it there to please thrill junkies and Disney fans for them not to complain that they're loosing their touch. I'm sorry if I expect more out of Disney when they have done better, and all they can throw out now is marketing when people don't go to the parks because they want to see some new half baked character based attraction, they're are going for the Disney experience and the classic attractions. This whole still praising Everest crap is a bunch of bull to me. When thats the last original thing they will put out for years except for the updates at Epcot. I don't care if they spent all this money on it, they need to move on and start actually "Imagineering" again. I really don't see what is so creative about taking one scene from a movie and making it an attraction. Or taking a whole movie and making it, its own land (Carland DCA). If you think they deserve an award for these attractions go ahead and think so. But I don't so I hope you enjoyed the rambling of a "15 year old brat" Have a magical Day! :wave:

I can't tell what's worse? Your post, or the fact that I wasted time reading it.
 

mkt

When a paradise is lost go straight to Disney™
Premium Member
You know what the only reason I'm so fed up is because I'm sick of Disney Screwing with everything I loved and charished at the Parks. I am alowed to have my own opinion Thank you very much. And you know what I'll be a brat right now and whenever I please so enjoy it. I'm sorry if I'm sick of seeing the parks go down the drain and Don't ever think I've mistaken Disney for Cedar point. I personally think Everest is old, and that Disney just put it there to please thrill junkies and Disney fans for them not to complain that they're loosing their touch. I'm sorry if I expect more out of Disney when they have done better, and all they can throw out now is marketing when people don't go to the parks because they want to see some new half baked character based attraction, they're are going for the Disney experience and the classic attractions. This whole still praising Everest crap is a bunch of bull to me. When thats the last original thing they will put out for years except for the updates at Epcot. I don't care if they spent all this money on it, they need to move on and start actually "Imagineering" again. I really don't see what is so creative about taking one scene from a movie and making it an attraction. Or taking a whole movie and making it, its own land (Carland DCA). If you think they deserve an award for these attractions go ahead and think so. But I don't so I hope you enjoyed the rambling of a "15 year old brat" Have a magical Day! :wave:
For someone who was 4 years old during the golden age of Disney parks, you have a lot of opinions. You haven't given one factual statement, just your views, which are yours and yours alone. Going into a discussion or debate armed with nothing more than an opinion is like going into a barfight armed with only a bible. It's valiant, but you'll still get your @%% kicked :)

Everyone, let's play fill in the blank:

Opinions are like _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

:D
 

goofyfan13

Well-Known Member
Everyone, let's play fill in the blank:

Opinions are like _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

:D

I leave the blank there, but I'll finish the phrase, "Everyone has one, and they all stink..." :lookaroun

Xadllas said:
You know what the only reason I'm so fed up is because I'm sick of Disney Screwing with everything I loved and charished at the Parks. I am alowed to have my own opinion Thank you very much. And you know what I'll be a brat right now and whenever I please so enjoy it. I'm sorry if I'm sick of seeing the parks go down the drain and Don't ever think I've mistaken Disney for Cedar point. I personally think Everest is old, and that Disney just put it there to please thrill junkies and Disney fans for them not to complain that they're loosing their touch. I'm sorry if I expect more out of Disney when they have done better, and all they can throw out now is marketing when people don't go to the parks because they want to see some new half baked character based attraction, they're are going for the Disney experience and the classic attractions. This whole still praising Everest crap is a bunch of bull to me. When thats the last original thing they will put out for years except for the updates at Epcot. I don't care if they spent all this money on it, they need to move on and start actually "Imagineering" again. I really don't see what is so creative about taking one scene from a movie and making it an attraction. Or taking a whole movie and making it, its own land (Carland DCA). If you think they deserve an award for these attractions go ahead and think so. But I don't so I hope you enjoyed the rambling of a "15 year old brat" Have a magical Day! :wave:

Saying Everest is old is like saying the spoon made Rosie O'Donnell fat, it flat out isn't true. The ride has been open for a year, they aren't going to throw another E-Ticket into WDW a year after opening a high budget one. It's simple business and economics 101. Do I like all the character based attractions? Not really, but they are still indeed fun to go on, and they are bringing people through the turnstiles, and until they stop doing that, I'm willing to bet Disney is going to keep giving the average consumer what they want.

You, myself(although I highly regret throwing myself in the same category as you) and everyone else who enjoyed the old Disney attractions that where unique in their own right, are in fact in the minority. You want proof? Look at the wait times for rides like AE, Dreamflight, MTWR, TLS, Horizons, and WOM in their last days.
 

PigletIsMyCat

Well-Known Member
I hate to say it, but Ryan's right. Just because the attractions are what some hardcore fans feel are 'Disneyesque' doesn't mean the general public will appreciate them. And that's the bottom line: Disney is going to attempt to appeal to as broad a spectrum of people as they can. You can't please all of the people all of the time, just some of the people some of the time.
 

tirian

Well-Known Member
HEY! Be nice to Meg Crofton! She's actually been doing a good job, you know.

I'm in totally agreement with those who that a lot of you bash whoever the top brass is just because they are the top brass and that they make decisions that aren't to your liking.

I'm sick of that mentality!:hurl:

I haven't bashed anyone, including Meg. She's simply "In Over Her Head," which is why most of the people down here refer to her as...

Inoverherhead Meg.

Al Lutz coined the phrase on his website, and CMs have been using it ever since. This, of course, demonstrates how many people really do read Disney-related blogs. :lol:

Furthermore, I hope you aren't referring to me as "One of those who bash..." because I don't. The fact is that Meg hasn't made any decisions anyway! How can anyone criticize her when she's basically just a figurehead? :shrug:

p.s. She is a very nice woman in real life; don't think that I'm criticizing her as a person, because I'm not.
 
I haven't bashed anyone, including Meg. She's simply "In Over Her Head," which is why most of the people down here refer to her as...

Inoverherhead Meg.

Al Lutz coined the phrase on his website, and CMs have been using it ever since. This, of course, demonstrates how many people really do read Disney-related blogs. :lol:

Furthermore, I hope you aren't referring to me as "One of those who bash..." because I don't. The fact is that Meg hasn't made any decisions anyway! How can anyone criticize her when she's basically just a figurehead? :shrug:

p.s. She is a very nice woman in real life; don't think that I'm criticizing her as a person, because I'm not.

Meg is NOT a figurehead...and she's NOT "in over her head" either!:mad:
 

wickedfan07

Member
You know what the only reason I'm so fed up is because I'm sick of Disney Screwing with everything I loved and charished at the Parks. I am alowed to have my own opinion Thank you very much. And you know what I'll be a brat right now and whenever I please so enjoy it. I'm sorry if I'm sick of seeing the parks go down the drain and Don't ever think I've mistaken Disney for Cedar point. I personally think Everest is old, and that Disney just put it there to please thrill junkies and Disney fans for them not to complain that they're loosing their touch. I'm sorry if I expect more out of Disney when they have done better, and all they can throw out now is marketing when people don't go to the parks because they want to see some new half baked character based attraction, they're are going for the Disney experience and the classic attractions. This whole still praising Everest crap is a bunch of bull to me. When thats the last original thing they will put out for years except for the updates at Epcot. I don't care if they spent all this money on it, they need to move on and start actually "Imagineering" again. I really don't see what is so creative about taking one scene from a movie and making it an attraction. Or taking a whole movie and making it, its own land (Carland DCA). If you think they deserve an award for these attractions go ahead and think so. But I don't so I hope you enjoyed the rambling of a "15 year old brat" Have a magical Day! :wave:

You wouldn't want to walk through Radiator Springs? As soon as I saw the scene after McQueen fixes the neon lights, my first thought was, "I want to see THAT in a theme park someday."

As for things getting old within a year of their opening... In the terms you're speaking of, old is a subjective thing. Maybe you've been on Everest 20 times in the last year; if you have been congratulations on being so lucky. I have ridden Everest a grand total of once, on my marching band trip last year. Because of this, the ride is not old to me; I haven't had the chance to explore and find everything about it. And I'll still enjoy it the next time I ride it, and the next after that, because I will still be finding new things about it. For people who ride it constantly, its like watching a sitcom episode over and over in reruns. That DOES get old. In this case, even Space Mountain is not old; yes, the track itself is aging, but the experience is not old for those of us who cannot ride it, once, twice or three times each year (or even one every five years). Everest is not old physically, and for most people, is not an old or uninteresting experience.

When you're ready to graduate high school in 2-3 years, I think arguing over the newness of rides and the inner workings of the Disney Company will be less important to you; you'll have more important things to worry about.
 

I-4Warrior

New Member
Anyone who is naive enough to view Everest as "old" is obviously a desensitized passholder (I should know... I can detect my own). People who think that way should step back and realize that not everyone who visits the parks goes there 20-50 times a year, and a great many park guests have never visited WDW when certain rides, such as Everest, have been open. To them, it is still new. The parks aren't solely intended for the people who visit it on a daily/weekly/monthly basis.
 

WDW Monorail

Well-Known Member
Soarin is a clone (I hate it as stated before), Missions: Space half baked ride to please thrill junkies (I hate it too), Test Track the only acceptable thrill ride out of the 3 put into Epcot. Finding Nemo (I'm support due to it brought back the seacabs in a way), Laugh Floor (I'm not too happy with because it replaced Time Keeper and doesn't belong in Tomorrowland), and Stitch is half baked, not too well planned out and isn't what I'd call a show kids could really enjoy without being afraid of the dark and sudden noises. What I'm saying is, why can't we have some new additions that are not character based and not an e ticket all in one again. Answetr I always get its not what sells. Well you know what, Walt and the Imagineers DID NOT go by what the people wanted, people wen't in and loved what he and his imagineers created for Disneyland, by putting in all these character based attractions they are ruining the parks and their image and not to mention storylines. And by puting in more of them isn't helping it! The people going to the parks for the first time now a days are gonna think all Dinsey can do is put movie based attractions in their parks and not think there was more than that in the past. I am ok with a few every now and then but its not right when everything coming out of WDI is nothing but Characters. If by doing nothing but throwing logs in the fire is all that Disney is going to do then they need a real wake up call. Why can't we have maybe some new countries in World Showcase? Why can't we have the original Enchanted Tiki room back? Why can't Disney put something better in the 20k lot than a cheap playground? Why can't Disney come up with any original ideas anymore is the real question. Whatever happened to the imagination in Imagineering? Eisner has been gone for awhile now and though i have seen alot of improvements at the parks its still not enough. So why can't Disney create great originals like the Haunted Mansion or Horizons? Because they choose not too, simple as that.

You seem to have some pretty stong opinions about the parks. WHat you fail to realize is that WDW, and all of Disney for that matter, was not built just for people like us here at WDWMagic. TWDC's main audience are the general guests who may visit the parks on only one or two occasions during their life time. We make up the smallest minority of guests that go to the parks on a regular basis. Management is not going to want to spend money for 500,000 or so of us since they can spend a minimal amount in order to please the general guests. You can say that this is not a good business practice because they are not pleasing their most valuable guests, the ones that actually invest in the company. For whatever reason(lack of intelligence in some areas of business), they choose not to take that path and cater to the other 25 million guests.:wave:
 

speck76

Well-Known Member
You see correctly. :(

The fact that she's just a figurehead under Rasulo is unfortunate, because she is reportedly a very intelligent person.

What do you think her role is supposed to be?

And.....did you ever put together the fact that she has an HR background, and the CBA's are being renewed this year???.....her appointment was very strategic.
 

DisneyMusician2

Well-Known Member
As far as M:S goes, I love it and think it is a very investive concept. Rex leving is a double-endged sword for me. I don't like some of the directions he's taken Epcot in, but his rehabs are not done poorly. If he had some different direction from the top, he might have been more constructive.

Maybe someone new can FINALLY seek out a sponsor for WoL.....:brick:
 

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