Another thread mentioned a guest talking to CMs that they closed certain trail sections in AKL due to low occupancy. I'm not sure which ones.What parts of AKL are they shuttering?
Another thread mentioned a guest talking to CMs that they closed certain trail sections in AKL due to low occupancy. I'm not sure which ones.What parts of AKL are they shuttering?
They already devalue the classics by having them next to the likes of The Black Cauldron, Home on the Range & Ralph Breaks The Internet. The original Ice Age is a pretty good movie, I'd say it deserves to be on the app lolparental controls or not it confuses the brand and that’s a bad thing for a business.
It also devalues the “Disney classics” by putting them next to ice age, etc. but that doesn’t mean the Disney company shouldn’t have a larger streaming service. It’s just poorly branded.
Why not put mighty ducks on espn+!? That makes as much sense for that brand to me.
I was in Disney last week. The last thing I would do is blame AP holders for anything. All the issues are squarely on Disneys shoulders. So many aspects of the parks are an embarrassment. They're critically underbuilt, the food options and quality are mediocre at best, maintenance was sub par. The reservation system, Park hopping, genie plus/lightning lane, are all not great. The list can go on and on. Disney is charging for the surf and turf and giving us a Mc double and filet o fish.
Not many people care about pricing as long as it is justified in the quality of product. When quality is lowered and experience's taken away, all while jacking prices into the stratosphere, you're going to get push back.You know the thing that is most sad is that Disney could charge high premiums and people wouldn't complain as much if they took care of maintenance and upkeep of the parks and resorts. If you pay a premium price you would expect premium experience regardless of the wait times
And the sad fact is what they are doing with the new rides isn't what I would consider great. Rise was fantastic when it ran 100%. The falcon? Outside of pilot and seeing the falcon, very meh. Ratatouille was not very good. Frozen is really a joke. Guardians was a fantastic coaster but didn't really fit where it is. Mickey and Minnie was ok but not better than what was before. Slinky dog was fun but pretty off the shelf. Tron is way too short and after the launch just falls apart. The vast majority of what Disney has done since they've blown prices through the roof, has been pretty mediocre. It just doesn't justify the increases.Quality of food, experience, and keeping the rides pristine, etc. would do a lot to keep the people coming and complaints down because people would say that the price justifies the upkeep and quality
Not many people care about pricing as long as it is justified in the quality of product.
The ironic thing is that the quality is poor no matter what ticket you happen to use to get into the park.And the great thing about Annual Passes is that the quality doesn't really matter as much as the quantity.
@castlecake2.0 Do you know anything about this?Another thread mentioned a guest talking to CMs that they closed certain trail sections in AKL due to low occupancy. I'm not sure which ones.
The ironic thing is that the quality is poor no matter what ticket you happen to use to get into the park.
Nothing specific, but many resorts will “close” blocks of rooms based on occupancy rates to make it easier for housekeeping, could be that@castlecake2.0 Do you know anything about this?
That’s not a fact at all. A tourist from NY who stays off-site and buys a 4 day base ticket and only eats counter service lunch each day in the parks = $396 for ticket + $100 in f&b = $500
A Florida resident from Miami who visits 5 times and stays 1 night at Pop Century on each visit, and eats 1 sit down and 2 counter service would be = $399 for cheapest pass + $750 hotel, + $450 in f&b = $1600
Be nice to the locals. The biggest industries in FL are agriculture and tourism. These folks serve the visitor to have a magical vacation.For all of you trashing locals, remember the entire state of Florida can be locals. All 21 million of us.
I don’t understand this idea that locals should be punished just because they live close.
Who do you think is gonna help the parks survive if a recession comes?
I’m not a local but if you live in Florida good for you.
Take advantage of the perks available to you.
I did forget parking although it’s possible that our NY visitor just used Uber - doesn’t make them a hobo lol.Your made up comparison is just totally bs
Thanks for writing all of this. I gave up with this tourist vs local debate on who would spend more on average…So your visitor on their big disney vacation is only going to eat one meal a day?? And not bring their family and 2000s era avg 3 kids? Never buying any soveniors to take back? Stays offsite but no parking?
Is your hypothetical vacationer a hobo?
Why does your local who you define to be there every other month somehow more hungry and has more budget for food… than a person making a big deal trip that they can’t just do on a whim? And why does a local insist on on property while the big ‘only do this every 3yrs’ person is goinv to cheap out and stay outside?
Your made up comparison is just totally bs
News for you…. On average the more special and unique something is to someone… the more likely they are willing to splurge. Their avg daily spend per person will be higher.
Two… your disposable income doesn’t increase with your ability to visit. You just increase how much of it you likely spend at disney.
Three… you argument is fundamentally broken because the comparison is not one local vs one tourist. It’s one repeat customer vs a unique customer. It’s about comparing someone on a tepeat visit that year vs someone not. If its bob the local who goes three times, the comparison is bob’s total vs sam, joe, and dan combined.
fourth… the local is taking advantage of discounts used to lure them in attempts to get that discretionary spending out of them. If ghey were so willing to spend on their own they would not have to give them such steep discounts.
I did forget parking although it’s possible that our NY visitor just used Uber - doesn’t make them a hobo lol.
I was responding to someone saying it was “a fact” that a NY tourist spends more than a Florida pass holder. I don’t think either scenario I described doesn’t exist in the real world. I even went with a 4-day base ticket knowing that some tourists from New York only buy 1, 2, or 3 day tickets.
I’m doing a little back of the envelope math here, not trying to prove my innocence as a Magic Key holder![]()
They aren’t bad for the parks - but they are a less attractive guest the more frequently they come.A FL passholder who doesn't live close enough to "commute" to WDW will spend nearly the same as a non-resident. Hotel, meals, merchandise. Probably more on merchandise as they won't worry about having to ship back what they bought or try to stuff it in their suitcase. And they will visit more frequently as they don't have the added extra cost (and hassle) of transportation.
This argument that locals are bad for the parks needs to cease. Our money is just as green.
I don’t know if that’s accurate. When I worked for a tourist railroad, many of our season passholders were the ones who would make the larger gift shop purchases.But it is not a linear thing - the more someone visits eventually the guest’s patterns become a less profitable guest vs a non-pass holder. At that point the guest is just discounted filler customer you use to reduce your lost revenue.
Probably some locals buying popcorn buckets and reselling online for a nice profit to a NY residentI don’t know if that’s accurate. When I worked for a tourist railroad, many of our season passholders were the ones who would make the larger gift shop purchases.
The tourists would buy the cheap souvenirs like engineer hat, pins, train whistle. But the passholders would buy the model trains, the expensive books, dvd’s (yes we sold dvd’s back then! I’m old!) etc.
I don’t have the data Disney does, but I don’t think average family from New York is buying up all the limited edition popcorn buckets lol
True!!!! Haha.Probably some locals buying popcorn buckets and reselling online for a nice profit to a NY resident
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