News Bob Iger Steps Down - Bob Chapek CEO

denyuntilcaught

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Also important to remember that Genie+ and the Lake Nona moves were both developed under Iger.
Pardon my ignorance but do we know, for a fact, that the Nona move was an Iger call? Couple of articles are citing that the move as one Iger saw as particularly egregious, given it's disconnect from the family-friendly nature of the Disney brand Iger worked to reinforce in the eyes of the public.
 

el_super

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Pardon my ignorance but do we know, for a fact, that the Nona move was an Iger call? Couple of articles are citing that the move as one Iger saw as particularly egregious, given it's disconnect from the family-friendly nature of the Disney brand Iger worked to reinforce in the eyes of the public.


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“I want to share news about an exciting project that has been in various stages of planning since 2019,” wrote Josh D’Amaro, chairman of Disney Parks, Experiences and Products Division, in a letter to staff that was obtained by Deadline. “This new project will create a dynamic environment to support our expanding business – a brand-new regional campus which will be built in the vibrant Lake Nona community of Orlando, Florida.”



I suppose it's possible that D'Amaro and Chapek kept this from Iger for a year, but considering the efficiencies involved, it seems doubtful he wasn't aware or was told about it ahead of time.

It's also entirely possible D'Amaro was just lying when he said 2019.
 

GiveMeTheMusic

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Pardon my ignorance but do we know, for a fact, that the Nona move was an Iger call? Couple of articles are citing that the move as one Iger saw as particularly egregious, given it's disconnect from the family-friendly nature of the Disney brand Iger worked to reinforce in the eyes of the public.

As @el_super posted, this was in the works in 2019 under Iger. Iger was definitely aware, however, if Iger had not left it would have proceeded differently. Chapek and Josh took a very hard line with WDI on this, gambling on rehiring cheaper replacement talent in Florida later on, and lost 60%+ of the division in one fell swoop. Huge error.

Iger probably would have scrapped it in the face of CM revolt and the DeSantis garbage instead of doggedly sticking to it like Chapek. Everyone anticipates it will be scrapped now with Iger back.
 

SuddenStorm

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It's interesting that on here, Facebook, and reddit I haven't seen anyone say they wish Chapek was sticking around. He did such a lousy job that Iger coming back is being celebrated, when Disney fans had tons of issues with Iger.

I'm sure when Eisner left, even with the SaveDisney campaign and all that, there were a handful of fans that were happy with what the company was doing and didn't want him out of the company. Since even with his later misfires, he had tons of success at the company. But Chapek? It's been nothing but PR blunder after PR blunder since he took over.
 

mickEblu

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It's interesting that on here, Facebook, and reddit I haven't seen anyone say they wish Chapek was sticking around. He did such a lousy job that Iger coming back is being celebrated, when Disney fans had tons of issues with Iger.

I'm sure when Eisner left, even with the SaveDisney campaign and all that, there were a handful of fans that were happy with what the company was doing and didn't want him out of the company. Since even with his later misfires, he had tons of success at the company. But Chapek? It's been nothing but PR blunder after PR blunder since he took over.

It’s crazy. Not one solitary person wanted Paycheck to stick around. It’s almost impossible to be that universally hated.
 

SuddenStorm

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It’s crazy. Not one solitary person wanted Paycheck to stick around. It’s almost impossible to be that universally hated.

Honestly though, this board deserves 0 credit for thinking outside the box. Bringing back Iger guarantees Disney will go back to the same tired acquisition path it was on. It's mundane- we've seen it before.

With WDI in shambles and the film division creatively bankrupt, Disney needs a CEO who understands creatives and actors and who has never made one mad like Chapek did Scarlett Johansen. They need someone flawless, beloved, who does well on film. They need one charming yet refined.

They needed to bring back Michael Eisner.
 

mickEblu

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Honestly though, this board deserves 0 credit for thinking outside the box. Bringing back Iger guarantees Disney will go back to the same tired acquisition path it was on. It's mundane- we've seen it before.

With WDI in shambles and the film division creatively bankrupt, Disney needs a CEO who understands creatives and actors and who has never made one mad like Chapek did Scarlett Johansen. They need someone flawless, beloved, who does well on film. They need one charming yet refined.

They needed to bring back Michael Eisner.

Amen!
 

Disney Irish

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Honestly though, this board deserves 0 credit for thinking outside the box. Bringing back Iger guarantees Disney will go back to the same tired acquisition path it was on. It's mundane- we've seen it before.

With WDI in shambles and the film division creatively bankrupt, Disney needs a CEO who understands creatives and actors and who has never made one mad like Chapek did Scarlett Johansen. They need someone flawless, beloved, who does well on film. They need one charming yet refined.

They needed to bring back Michael Eisner.
Honestly Disney doesn't need a CEO like that. What they need to do is like they had at various times in the company history, have someone that is the face of the company creatively and then have a CEO that is financially and operationally focused. The company has always worked better when there is dual leadership. So split up the responsibilities, CEO and CCO (Chief Creative Officer).
 

mickEblu

Well-Known Member
Honestly though, this board deserves 0 credit for thinking outside the box. Bringing back Iger guarantees Disney will go back to the same tired acquisition path it was on. It's mundane- we've seen it before.

With WDI in shambles and the film division creatively bankrupt, Disney needs a CEO who understands creatives and actors and who has never made one mad like Chapek did Scarlett Johansen. They need someone flawless, beloved, who does well on film. They need one charming yet refined.

They needed to bring back Michael Eisner.

Say what you want about Eisner but not only did he create and design Splash Mountain but he was universally loved by all. Especially during the second half of his time as CEO.
 

SuddenStorm

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Say what you want about Eisner but not only did he create and design Splash Mountain but he was universally loved by all. Especially during the second half of his time as CEO.

Yes, it's said Eisner didn't peak until the 2000's. His career at Disney from '84 to '95 was just a warm up.

Industry analysts have often referred to his decision to hire Cynthia Harriss and Paul Pressler as 'enlightened'. While some die hard Disney fans refer to the early '90s as the Disney Animation renaissance, true film critics believe Walt Disney Animation's best work wasn't until the early 2000's.
 

SuddenStorm

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Honestly Disney doesn't need a CEO like that. What they need to do is like they had at various times in the company history, have someone that is the face of the company creatively and then have a CEO that is financially and operationally focused. The company has always worked better when there is dual leadership. So split up the responsibilities, CEO and CCO (Chief Creative Officer).

True Disney historians believe that Eisner's best years were when he worked alone. The Save Disney campaign was started to convince the board and executive team to give Eisner less oversight- it was believed that Eisner as both a business and creative force was unmatched, and other opinions really just couldn't live up to his.

Which is a trend that holds true for the entire history of the company- just think of how much further Walt could have gone if Roy wasn't holding him back.
 

mickEblu

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Yes, it's said Eisner didn't peak until the 2000's. His career at Disney from '84 to '95 was just a warm up.

Industry analysts have often referred to his decision to hire Cynthia Harriss and Paul Pressler as 'enlightened'. While some die hard Disney fans refer to the early '90s as the Disney Animation renaissance, true film critics believe Walt Disney Animation's best work wasn't until the early 2000's.

Definitely agree with 84 to 95 being a warm up but I’m not so sure about the animation in that time period unless you mean Pixar which I also give Eisner credit for as he is the one who discovered and mentored Steve Jobs.
 

Disney Irish

Premium Member
True Disney historians believe that Eisner's best years were when he worked alone. The Save Disney campaign was started to convince the board and executive team to give Eisner less oversight- it was believed that Eisner as both a business and creative force was unmatched, and other opinions really just couldn't live up to his.

Which is a trend that holds true for the entire history of the company- just think of how much further Walt could have gone if Roy wasn't holding him back.
I know you're joking here, but there are some Disney Fans that truly believe this.

This idea of a "creative CEO" is just a fantasy in modern business, Wall Street won't allow that to happen.
 

SuddenStorm

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Definitely agree with 84 to 95 being a warm up but I’m not so sure about the animation in that time period unless you mean Pixar which I also give Eisner credit for as he is the one who discovered and mentored Steve Jobs.

Chicken Little, Home on the Range, and Brother Bear are considered by animation historians to be the true peak of Walt Disney Animation.

It's said that Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King were just paving the way for the greatness to follow.

That said it really is a miracle Eisner discovered Steve, who was lesser known in the business world and not at all respected until his work for Pixar.
 

mickEblu

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Chicken Little, Home on the Range, and Brother Bear are considered by animation historians to be the true peak of Walt Disney Animation.

It's said that Little Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, The Lion King were just paving the way for the greatness to follow.

Dude totally forgot about Home on the Range somehow. I see your point.
 

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