News Bob Iger outlines the need to transform the Walt Disney Company resulting in 7000 job losses and $5.5 billion in cost savings

Sirwalterraleigh

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Epstein’s dismissal was part of companywide layoffs that impacted Elizabeth Newman, VP of Development who was based at 20th Television while overseeing Creative Acquisitions for Disney Television Studios; Mark Levenstein, SVP Production for Hulu; Jayne Bieber, SVP Production Management & Operations for Freeform; and nearly the entire Disney metaverse team.

Looks like they are starting at the exec level
Those are big losses…

…just kidding…none of those names mean anything
 

Cliff

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We can all debate and argure about the "type" of movies and content that Disney needs to make in the future. Politics and culture war topics aside....yes, we can all debate in many different ways about this issue. I get it....

What we ALL must agree on no matter what side we are on is this: Disney MUST find some way to make financially sucessful movies and shows again. Disney MUST find a way to make movies that people WANT to go to see!! Other animation studios ARE doing this....under the exact same economic and social conditions that Disney is.

Again....super simple...Disney must make movies that people....want...to...see. [sigh]

Rigjt now?...for whatever reason...this is just not happening and this NEEDS to change fast. If Disney continues to get more of the same? The studios will suffer and so will Disney +.

This means more and more Parks money will be taken away from the parks to prop-up failing studios and D+. This will continue to hurt the parks.
 

flynnibus

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What we ALL must agree on no matter what side we are on is this: Disney MUST find some way to make financially sucessful movies and shows again. Disney MUST find a way to make movies that people WANT to go to see!! Other animation studios ARE doing this....under the exact same economic and social conditions that Disney is.

Again....super simple...Disney must make movies that people....want...to...see. [sigh]
And you think their current outlook doesn't have high hopes?
Guardians
Avatar
Indiana F'ing Jones
A Freaking Avengers
plus more marvel.. more pixar.. etc

Again this current re-org is not due to office bombs. There are much bigger things going on here than a current run of movies.
 

Smiley/OCD

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Tha Realest

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And you think their current outlook doesn't have high hopes?
Guardians
Avatar
Indiana F'ing Jones
A Freaking Avengers
plus more marvel.. more pixar.. etc

Again this current re-org is not due to office bombs. There are much bigger things going on here than a current run of movies.
Guardians should do fine, but will underperform.

Elemental/Wish will underperform.

Indy will do fine.

The Little Mermaid will underperform relative to other live action remakes.

The big bad of the current Avengers phase was just criminally charged in Manhattan.
 

Cliff

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And you think their current outlook doesn't have high hopes?
Guardians
Avatar
Indiana F'ing Jones
A Freaking Avengers
plus more marvel.. more pixar.. etc

Again this current re-org is not due to office bombs. There are much bigger things going on here than a current run of movies.
"High hopes"?....which movie that Disney has released in 4 years did "not" have "high hopes"? Answer = They ALWAYS had "high hopes". The latest Ant Man had VERY "high hopes" but look what happened. Light Year, Stranger Things,...etc.

I had "high hopes" for Puss N Boots...and that movie was great. "High hopes" justified!

Every single thing that Disney makes has "high hopes". Look at the Star Wars Galactic StarCruiser hotel. What did "high hopes" do for that business model?

It seems to me that Disney THINKS that everything they make will be extremely well recieved by their customers. They are CLEARLY "not" able to know what WILL be a hit at all. Disney is NOT in touch with what their customers want anymore. Disney thought Harmonious was awesome and were very shocked to see it was NOT the hit they were expecting it to be. The list of failures is endless. Movies and parks.

"High hopes" at Disney is everywhere. Maybe some people need to step back...be honest...and say: "Guys....what we have on this drawing board is not good and I dont have high hopes for it. We need to regroup and rethink this..."

As far as the future movies on the Disney docket? I have no idea if they are good movies or not. Maybe they ARE incredible. Sadly,...after seeing what Im seeing today?...I dont have "high hopes" any more like I used to.

I really hope Im dead wrong...I really do.
 
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networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
We can all debate and argure about the "type" of movies and content that Disney needs to make in the future. Politics and culture war topics aside....yes, we can all debate in many different ways about this issue. I get it....

What we ALL must agree on no matter what side we are on is this: Disney MUST find some way to make financially sucessful movies and shows again. Disney MUST find a way to make movies that people WANT to go to see!! Other animation studios ARE doing this....under the exact same economic and social conditions that Disney is.

Again....super simple...Disney must make movies that people....want...to...see. [sigh]

Rigjt now?...for whatever reason...this is just not happening and this NEEDS to change fast. If Disney continues to get more of the same? The studios will suffer and so will Disney +.

This means more and more Parks money will be taken away from the parks to prop-up failing studios and D+. This will continue to hurt the parks.

They need to rid the decision-maker ranks that choose to pit one audience group against others. If they ever want to progress beyond the shock jock Jerry Springer level of entertainment, it has to be large general population targets, not niche constituencies as their shared experiences might be welcomed like a third eye in the middle of your forehead. Broad themes like O'hana which its not explicitly defined but can be understood and interpreted by the observer are ok, while explicitly stating that marriage in the context of Disney shall always be constrained to one wife with three husbands is not.

Classic fables are not only highly entertaining, but they also play an important role in highlighting and demonstrating character traits. For centuries, fables served the crucial role of communicating a shared history, reinforcing a culture's values, and calling attention to important traditions.

Just recognize that the tenants of your culture are not those of everyone else and attempts to steamroll the opposing ones are always met with rejection. Indeed stoking the fires of a culture war will make some happy if it favors their viewpoint, but economically may be suicide if the majority of your customer base doesn't agree.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
"High hopes"?....which movie that Disney has released in 4 years did "not" have "high hopes"? Answer = They ALWAYS had "high hopes". The latest Ant Man had VERY "high hopes" but look what happened. Light Year, Stranger Things,...etc.
So you're dodging the question. Are you going to go on record right now and predict all those films are going to be bombs that no one wants to see? We're talking about the forward looking slate... so put your money where your mouth is and either accept that slate has promise or claim it doesn't.

As far as the movies you listed. I have no idea if they are good movies or not. Maybe they ARE incredible. Sadly,...after seeing what Im seeing today?...I dont have "high hopes" any more like I used to.

I really hope Im dead wrong...I really do.

So you're ready to conclude they can't do it... but not ready to actually judge their plan. That's why your post just comes off as emotional rant vs rational argument.
 

brb1006

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So maybe getting rid of ABC Family in favor of a more steamy Freeform wasn't such a good idea?
I miss ABC Family, I always tuned to that station during the Christmas season where they aired tons of lesser-known and obscure Rankin/Bass Christmas Specials (such as Rudolph's Shiny New Year and Nestor the Long-Eared Christmas Donkey) before moving to AMC after the station was rebranded to FreeForm.
 

Tha Realest

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So you're dodging the question. Are you going to go on record right now and predict all those films are going to be bombs that no one wants to see? We're talking about the forward looking slate... so put your money where your mouth is and either accept that slate has promise or claim it doesn't.



So you're ready to conclude they can't do it... but not ready to actually judge their plan. That's why your post just comes off as emotional rant vs rational argument.
Why is the binary choice “high hopes” vs “bombs no one wants to see.”

I tend to think the future’s more murky, ranging from some successes - Indy, Avatar, - to middling, underperformers - Guardians, The Marvels, Elemental, The Little Mermaid, and Wish.

Post-Infinity War saga MCU has been pretty uneven in terms of performance:

 

Magenta Panther

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I don’t disagree

But I might add that they have really low expectations of their audience and the audience…almost organically…no longer is developing the same kinda bonds that they once did.

Treat people as stupid and they’ll begin to not offer the benefit of the doubts.


My Angle? The live action remakes are so cynical. A one and done for viewers because there’s nothing to think about afterwards.

And two of the most blatant, insulting remakes I could conjure up: Mary poppins and the farce awakens. Thanks for literally nothing. Then blame the audience for fallout because they’re too stupid to call it what it is?


Even saviour Bob…who still needs go…

MORE Toy Story
MORE Frozen
MORE Zootopia
Josh Gad, the voice of fuzzy-wuzzy Olaf, said something so reprehensible on Twitter yesterday that I'd advise Iger to find another voice actor for the snowman. Or maybe skip Frozen 3 altogether (because who cares anymore?)

Also, Jeffrey Epstein (not THAT Epstein) got laid off from Disney today, according to the Site That Must Not Be Named. He was VP of Disney Corporate Communications. Did a lot of tweets on Twitter about upcoming Disney projects. Among other things. Hmmm...
 

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