News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

pdude81

Well-Known Member
This is almost too perfect.

Say what you want about Chapek the stooge, but Cruella McCarthy is truly the source of rot and wretchedness within the walls of The Walt Disney Company.

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and she sits on the board at P&G which seems like quite the coincidence. Got a new contract the second Susan Arnold become chairwoman. Did any of you ever watch "The Mole" on ABC?
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I can’t even imagine how deep the tire tracks are on slaphead’s back by now?

But this is correct to be appalling

And I’ll repeat what I posted 1,000 times since Bob snuck out in February 2020:

A crap peddler from ketchup and retail is wholly unqualified to run Disney. Period. Full stop. It was never in doubt
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
This is almost too perfect.

Say what you want about Chapek the stooge, but Cruella McCarthy is truly the source of rot and wretchedness within the walls of The Walt Disney Company.

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I noticed that too…

She should be bouncing down the 5 too…deal with the she-devil from Bob.

And his plant/buddy Sue Arnold.
Watch your back, ladies
 

Slpy3270

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“Walt Disney Co. was working with consulting firm McKinsey & Co. in recent months on an effort to centralize control of major spending decisions, triggering an uproar from top creative executives at the entertainment giant, according to people familiar with the matter.

Discussions regarding the plan were under way in the weeks leading up to Nov. 20, when Disney’s board of directors fired Bob Chapek as chief executive and replaced him with his predecessor, Robert Iger.

Disney’s Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthyspearheaded the wide-ranging cost-cutting effort, which was blessed by Disney’s board of directors and given the go-ahead by Mr. Chapek, the people said.

The company hired McKinsey in September to review Disney’s operations and identify redundancies and cost-saving opportunities. The McKinsey team quickly set about interviewing senior executives as part of its review, with a particular focus on how Disney marketed its content, the people familiar with the matter said.

One potential change McKinsey was exploring was taking decisions about spending on marketing and publicity for films and television programs out of the hands of studio executives and instead centralizing them in another part of the company, the people said.

Disney itself had already considered shifting oversight of marketing spending to Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution, or DMED, some of the people familiar said. Led by executive Kareem Daniel, a top lieutenant of Mr. Chapek, that division already had considerable influence over content.

In addition to recommending restructuring related to content decisions, McKinsey had also suggested consolidating tasks related to hiring, communications and legal services, some of the people familiar with the matter said.

The plans that were emerging rankled some of the entertainment company’s top content executives, already reeling from losing power over spending decisions on content, and became one of several points that exposed a further rift between the creative and corporate leadership of the company during Mr. Chapek’s brief reign as CEO. Some executives told colleagues they felt that the changes would strip them of nearly all of their power, people familiar with the situation said.”

“The McKinsey plans weren’t completed, and it isn’t clear whether Mr. Iger will implement any of the consultants’ recommendations, according to people familiar with the situation.”

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Of course they would talk to those freaks. McKinsey ruins everything they touch.
 

Incomudro

Well-Known Member
Do tell. I know Spielberg liked to use overlapping dialogue earlier in his career, where there might be multiple conversations going on at once. Did he do the same thing visually and we just haven't noticed on a smaller screen?
I loved his use of overlapping dialog back in the day.
What I was noticing in the theater were mostly background and set details that are too small to really take in on even a 55" tv.
One thing I noticed was how often Brody had his revolver and holster on him while on the Orca.
That's a detail that would be visible on a large tv, but in my many viewings of the movie on tv it faded into the background.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
IMO a lot of this is self inflicted. It's not just Disney either, it's most streaming services. They care more about new content for their service then making money off new movies. It's why most are losing money.
It all stems back to the conglomerates in Hollywood becoming 100% risk averse. Way too meant petals on that onion to peel them all today
 

TwilightZone

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And a big part of the problem is they're paying significantly more for what looks rather similar to cheaper work. Why have we not seen a feature length film using something like the Paperman technique? Why not look at what Glen Keane had developed for Rapunzel?
Exactly! More studios are going out of the box on what CGI can do. Sony had the comic book styled "Spiderverse". Blue Sky had the cartoony "Peanuts". Even Dreamworks is going to have the Puss n Boots movie that looks unlike anything I've seen from that studio.

In a way, it feels like Disney is going backwards, the only film that fits from them is the Disney+ Wimpy Kid movies, which are outsourced to a different company, and you can really tell in the first one.

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durangojim

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I loved his use of overlapping dialog back in the day.
What I was noticing in the theater were mostly background and set details that are too small to really take in on even a 55" tv.
One thing I noticed was how often Brody had his revolver and holster on him while on the Orca.
That's a detail that would be visible on a large tv, but in my many viewings of the movie on tv it faded into the background.
I’m coming in the middle of this conversation but my family and I saw Jaws in 3D on the big screen a couple of months ago and we all agreed that it was the best version of jaws that we’ve ever seen. All the little details really stood out and even though I’ve seen the film more times than I can count I was seeing new things I had never noticed.
 

Incomudro

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I’m coming in the middle of this conversation but my family and I saw Jaws in 3D on the big screen a couple of months ago and we all agreed that it was the best version of jaws that we’ve ever seen. All the little details really stood out and even though I’ve seen the film more times than I can count I was seeing new things I had never noticed.
My thoughts exactly, and the version I watched was the 3D version.
 
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_caleb

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You know what I mean. It's why I put "free" in quotation marks. To make it easier for you to understand I change it to included with your subscription. IMO new movies should be an extra $20 to $30 each on top of your subscription for the first 6 months of it's release.
Isn’t this what Disney has done with their “Premier Access” films like Black Widow, Jungle Cruise, and the live-action Mulan? I think those were priced at $35?
 

Jrb1979

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Isn’t this what Disney has done with their “Premier Access” films like Black Widow, Jungle Cruise, and the live-action Mulan? I think those were priced at $35?
During Covid they did that. Since theaters have been back open they haven't. That's what they should be doing now. It should be theatre for a month, available for $35 on streaming 3 months after it's been released and 6 months to a year for it to be included on Streaming. IMO they would make more money on the movies doing it that way then what they are doing now.
 

_caleb

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Who said they were? Cinemas are an attraction. Always have been. Unless you have a 50ft wall in your house you will never truly replicate the movie going experience at home. There will always be a place for movie theaters because people like the experience.
We were talking about The Walt Disney Company and why Disney is focusing less on theatricals releases and more on streaming. I said the reason what because “cinemas are not the future” and then people got upset.
 

_caleb

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I worked in music retail and owned my own store during that period of time…I have firsthand knowledge of what happened to the music industry…

It was mainly a combination of two factors….
1) the 5 major labels: WEA (Warner Bros), Sony, Capitol, MCA & PMD (Polygram) were (at the time), run by old time record executives and believed they were the “Kings of the industry”, a legal cartel if you will, that were CONVINCED that downloading was a fad, something that would NEVER effect their business…they were too big to fail…(SOUND FAMILIAR, DISNEY?). As events unfolded, they learned QUICKLY, they failed to prepare for the future.

The second catastrophe for the music business was Napster. My store was a full service store, but specialized in dance music. I sold 12” singles, domestic and import and supplied every club and DJ at the Jersey shore and had DJ’s from as far away as DE, PA,& NY.
My good DJ customers would meet the UPS driver and as fast as I unpacked the vinyl, they would buy it. Within 3 months, my business slowed to a crawl. WHY? DJ’s we’re downloading the music from Napster. They went from carrying milk crates out of my store to spinning music from a laptop. On top of that, 9/11 happened and we were in the midst of a recession. 1 hurdle I could’ve weathered…3 hurdles, impossible. After 7 years, I had no other alternative but to close my store and try to sell my inventory.
The major labels learned that computers were the new way to deliver music. We, as an industry couldn’t compete with free and the majors had to scramble to make money off downloading. They never thought twice about the major chains that were their outlets, Record Town, Record World, Sam Goody, Tower, the Wiz and more plus the independents. In 2001, there was no Apple Music.
This is the example I always use when people talk about UNI creeping up on Disney. They too think they’re the kings of the hill…when you’re on top, there’s only one way to go…and it ain’t up.
I am sorry about your business. As a former independent bookstore owner, I can sort of relate.

Isn’t Disney’s shift in focus from theatrical releases to Disney+ just their effort to avoid what the recording industry went through?
 

_caleb

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Haha ... not really just. Disney could be making more money by cutting scenes, prefably for all regions, and get their films released to more territories. Treat this time as a bad experiment by Chapek and refocus by making sure the company isn't going to champion social justice over money.

Iger should sell the company to the Public Investment Fund
Disney+ allows them to stream different versions/modifications of a film to different markets.
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
I think if it was gonna work…they would already have dumped the theaters.

Remember: studios get half the take - if that - from theater runs.

No accountant in history likes that margin.

Something ain’t working
The way forward is data. Disney+ isn’t the product, subscribers are.
 

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