News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

Sirwalterraleigh

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Transparent pandering is great if you’re good at it and don’t do it all the time. It’s a big key to the success of MCU (and a major reason those films are so much fun in a crowded theater) and a significant key as to why Universal feels more fun and welcoming then Disney at the moment. WDW just forgot how to pander well!
That was “old Bob” and “middle Bob”…wait until you see “new Bob” talk about how he loves his customers - by meeting their desires To have prices raised on them for old stuff 👍🏻
 

Tha Realest

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Transparent pandering is great if you’re good at it and don’t do it all the time. It’s a big key to the success of MCU (and a major reason those films are so much fun in a crowded theater) and a significant key as to why Universal feels more fun and welcoming then Disney at the moment. WDW just forgot how to pander well!
If you want to see a good example of pandering - to me, it's specifically calibrated to hit my nostalgia zones - check out the new Indiana Jones 5 trailer just released. THAT is a terrific example of pandering. (though IIRC the Crystal Skull trailer was well done too)
 

Absimilliard

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I worked in music retail and owned my own store during that period of time…I have firsthand knowledge of what happened to the music industry…

It was mainly a combination of two factors….
1) the 5 major labels: WEA (Warner Bros), Sony, Capitol, MCA & PMD (Polygram) were (at the time), run by old time record executives and believed they were the “Kings of the industry”, a legal cartel if you will, that were CONVINCED that downloading was a fad, something that would NEVER effect their business…they were too big to fail…(SOUND FAMILIAR, DISNEY?). As events unfolded, they learned QUICKLY, they failed to prepare for the future.

The second catastrophe for the music business was Napster. My store was a full service store, but specialized in dance music. I sold 12” singles, domestic and import and supplied every club and DJ at the Jersey shore and had DJ’s from as far away as DE, PA,& NY.
My good DJ customers would meet the UPS driver and as fast as I unpacked the vinyl, they would buy it. Within 3 months, my business slowed to a crawl. WHY? DJ’s we’re downloading the music from Napster. They went from carrying milk crates out of my store to spinning music from a laptop. On top of that, 9/11 happened and we were in the midst of a recession. 1 hurdle I could’ve weathered…3 hurdles, impossible. After 7 years, I had no other alternative but to close my store and try to sell my inventory.
The major labels learned that computers were the new way to deliver music. We, as an industry couldn’t compete with free and the majors had to scramble to make money off downloading. They never thought twice about the major chains that were their outlets, Record Town, Record World, Sam Goody, Tower, the Wiz and more plus the independents. In 2001, there was no Apple Music.
This is the example I always use when people talk about UNI creeping up on Disney. They too think they’re the kings of the hill…when you’re on top, there’s only one way to go…and it ain’t up.

Amazing post and great insight into the music business. I remember the golden era of the 1990s when every week, you'd have new songs from dance acts that would appear and dissapear overnight and yeah, the record store was the only way you'd get access to them. When DJ Robert Ouimet (Montreal's legendary Limelight nightclub) was at the top during the disco era, he'd drive every week down to New York and do what you describe, buy the latest records, listen to them at home and then play them over the weekend at the Limelight. This is how he realized Donna Summer "I Feel Love" (the B side to the record he bought!) was the song that would be popular. He wasn't wrong.
 

Ayla

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I don’t disagree with this at all. The conversation was about why Disney was going with shorter theatrical windows. I said “because cinemas are not the future” (not “cinemas have no future.”)

Now everyone’s upset thinking I’m some monster who hates going to the movies.
Gingerbread Man Shrek GIF
 

fgmnt

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Hindsight is 20/20. They could have delayed, but delayed until when? When we were in the midst of the pandemic, we didn't know when the pandemic would end.
Hindsight is absolutely 20/20. Would Chapek still be CEO if Encanto came out this summer in theaters instead of last fall, or if the theatrical window was not known to be so minute before the wide streaming release and instead was pegged for after the Christmas holiday? We'll never know, but we can talk about it on this here web site.
 

DCBaker

Premium Member
“Walt Disney Co. was working with consulting firm McKinsey & Co. in recent months on an effort to centralize control of major spending decisions, triggering an uproar from top creative executives at the entertainment giant, according to people familiar with the matter.

Discussions regarding the plan were under way in the weeks leading up to Nov. 20, when Disney’s board of directors fired Bob Chapek as chief executive and replaced him with his predecessor, Robert Iger.

Disney’s Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthyspearheaded the wide-ranging cost-cutting effort, which was blessed by Disney’s board of directors and given the go-ahead by Mr. Chapek, the people said.

The company hired McKinsey in September to review Disney’s operations and identify redundancies and cost-saving opportunities. The McKinsey team quickly set about interviewing senior executives as part of its review, with a particular focus on how Disney marketed its content, the people familiar with the matter said.

One potential change McKinsey was exploring was taking decisions about spending on marketing and publicity for films and television programs out of the hands of studio executives and instead centralizing them in another part of the company, the people said.

Disney itself had already considered shifting oversight of marketing spending to Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution, or DMED, some of the people familiar said. Led by executive Kareem Daniel, a top lieutenant of Mr. Chapek, that division already had considerable influence over content.

In addition to recommending restructuring related to content decisions, McKinsey had also suggested consolidating tasks related to hiring, communications and legal services, some of the people familiar with the matter said.

The plans that were emerging rankled some of the entertainment company’s top content executives, already reeling from losing power over spending decisions on content, and became one of several points that exposed a further rift between the creative and corporate leadership of the company during Mr. Chapek’s brief reign as CEO. Some executives told colleagues they felt that the changes would strip them of nearly all of their power, people familiar with the situation said.”

“The McKinsey plans weren’t completed, and it isn’t clear whether Mr. Iger will implement any of the consultants’ recommendations, according to people familiar with the situation.”

Full article -

 

Tha Realest

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“Walt Disney Co. was working with consulting firm McKinsey & Co. in recent months on an effort to centralize control of major spending decisions, triggering an uproar from top creative executives at the entertainment giant, according to people familiar with the matter.

Discussions regarding the plan were under way in the weeks leading up to Nov. 20, when Disney’s board of directors fired Bob Chapek as chief executive and replaced him with his predecessor, Robert Iger.

Disney’s Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthyspearheaded the wide-ranging cost-cutting effort, which was blessed by Disney’s board of directors and given the go-ahead by Mr. Chapek, the people said.

The company hired McKinsey in September to review Disney’s operations and identify redundancies and cost-saving opportunities. The McKinsey team quickly set about interviewing senior executives as part of its review, with a particular focus on how Disney marketed its content, the people familiar with the matter said.

One potential change McKinsey was exploring was taking decisions about spending on marketing and publicity for films and television programs out of the hands of studio executives and instead centralizing them in another part of the company, the people said.

Disney itself had already considered shifting oversight of marketing spending to Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution, or DMED, some of the people familiar said. Led by executive Kareem Daniel, a top lieutenant of Mr. Chapek, that division already had considerable influence over content.

In addition to recommending restructuring related to content decisions, McKinsey had also suggested consolidating tasks related to hiring, communications and legal services, some of the people familiar with the matter said.

The plans that were emerging rankled some of the entertainment company’s top content executives, already reeling from losing power over spending decisions on content, and became one of several points that exposed a further rift between the creative and corporate leadership of the company during Mr. Chapek’s brief reign as CEO. Some executives told colleagues they felt that the changes would strip them of nearly all of their power, people familiar with the situation said.”

“The McKinsey plans weren’t completed, and it isn’t clear whether Mr. Iger will implement any of the consultants’ recommendations, according to people familiar with the situation.”

Full article -

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GimpYancIent

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“Walt Disney Co. was working with consulting firm McKinsey & Co. in recent months on an effort to centralize control of major spending decisions, triggering an uproar from top creative executives at the entertainment giant, according to people familiar with the matter.

Discussions regarding the plan were under way in the weeks leading up to Nov. 20, when Disney’s board of directors fired Bob Chapek as chief executive and replaced him with his predecessor, Robert Iger.

Disney’s Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthyspearheaded the wide-ranging cost-cutting effort, which was blessed by Disney’s board of directors and given the go-ahead by Mr. Chapek, the people said.

The company hired McKinsey in September to review Disney’s operations and identify redundancies and cost-saving opportunities. The McKinsey team quickly set about interviewing senior executives as part of its review, with a particular focus on how Disney marketed its content, the people familiar with the matter said.

One potential change McKinsey was exploring was taking decisions about spending on marketing and publicity for films and television programs out of the hands of studio executives and instead centralizing them in another part of the company, the people said.

Disney itself had already considered shifting oversight of marketing spending to Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution, or DMED, some of the people familiar said. Led by executive Kareem Daniel, a top lieutenant of Mr. Chapek, that division already had considerable influence over content.

In addition to recommending restructuring related to content decisions, McKinsey had also suggested consolidating tasks related to hiring, communications and legal services, some of the people familiar with the matter said.

The plans that were emerging rankled some of the entertainment company’s top content executives, already reeling from losing power over spending decisions on content, and became one of several points that exposed a further rift between the creative and corporate leadership of the company during Mr. Chapek’s brief reign as CEO. Some executives told colleagues they felt that the changes would strip them of nearly all of their power, people familiar with the situation said.”

“The McKinsey plans weren’t completed, and it isn’t clear whether Mr. Iger will implement any of the consultants’ recommendations, according to people familiar with the situation.”

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In a single corporate speak word, STREAMLINING. B.I.'s actions will soon tell.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
“Walt Disney Co. was working with consulting firm McKinsey & Co. in recent months on an effort to centralize control of major spending decisions, triggering an uproar from top creative executives at the entertainment giant, according to people familiar with the matter.

Discussions regarding the plan were under way in the weeks leading up to Nov. 20, when Disney’s board of directors fired Bob Chapek as chief executive and replaced him with his predecessor, Robert Iger.

Disney’s Chief Financial Officer Christine McCarthyspearheaded the wide-ranging cost-cutting effort, which was blessed by Disney’s board of directors and given the go-ahead by Mr. Chapek, the people said.

The company hired McKinsey in September to review Disney’s operations and identify redundancies and cost-saving opportunities. The McKinsey team quickly set about interviewing senior executives as part of its review, with a particular focus on how Disney marketed its content, the people familiar with the matter said.

One potential change McKinsey was exploring was taking decisions about spending on marketing and publicity for films and television programs out of the hands of studio executives and instead centralizing them in another part of the company, the people said.

Disney itself had already considered shifting oversight of marketing spending to Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution, or DMED, some of the people familiar said. Led by executive Kareem Daniel, a top lieutenant of Mr. Chapek, that division already had considerable influence over content.

In addition to recommending restructuring related to content decisions, McKinsey had also suggested consolidating tasks related to hiring, communications and legal services, some of the people familiar with the matter said.

The plans that were emerging rankled some of the entertainment company’s top content executives, already reeling from losing power over spending decisions on content, and became one of several points that exposed a further rift between the creative and corporate leadership of the company during Mr. Chapek’s brief reign as CEO. Some executives told colleagues they felt that the changes would strip them of nearly all of their power, people familiar with the situation said.”

“The McKinsey plans weren’t completed, and it isn’t clear whether Mr. Iger will implement any of the consultants’ recommendations, according to people familiar with the situation.”

Full article -

"...the design of a new structure that puts more decision-making back in the hands of our creative teams and rationalizes costs."

Those two goals strike me as mutually exclusive.
 

Jrb1979

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I think if it was gonna work…they would already have dumped the theaters.

Remember: studios get half the take - if that - from theater runs.

No accountant in history likes that margin.

Something ain’t working
IMO a lot of this is self inflicted. It's not just Disney either, it's most streaming services. They care more about new content for their service then making money off new movies. It's why most are losing money.
 

Tha Realest

Well-Known Member
In a single corporate speak word, STREAMLINING. B.I.'s actions will soon tell.
Genuinely curious how this approach is to work. A theatrical release needs to an entirely different marketing scheme than a D+ release. Films are often approved and greenlit based on marketing costs (and release window). You could see how, say, a department head over what used to be Fox or Pixar or Disney Animation or Touchstone or whatever may have a highly vested interest in having a film marketed in a particular way that, say Kareem Daniel or Christine McCarthy may not appreciate (or value in the same way - it's not their job on the line). Heck, one could ARGUE that Strange World suffered from a lack of marketing oxygen between Black Panther 2 and Avatar 2.
 

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Genuinely curious how this approach is to work. A theatrical release needs to an entirely different marketing scheme than a D+ release. Films are often approved and greenlit based on marketing costs (and release window). You could see how, say, a department head over what used to be Fox or Pixar or Disney Animation or Touchstone or whatever may have a highly vested interest in having a film marketed in a particular way that, say Kareem Daniel or Christine McCarthy may not appreciate (or value in the same way - it's not their job on the line). Heck, one could ARGUE that Strange World suffered from a lack of marketing oxygen between Black Panther 2 and Avatar 2.
It was a turf issue. If Pixar wants a movie to have a theatrical release, but it's in the company's best interest to put the movie on Disney+, you don't want the head of Pixar to be able to make decisions that aren't in the best interest of the company. Remember, when this structure was rolled out, Wall Street was entirely focuses on Disney+ growing subscribers as quickly as possible.

Iger obviously thinks this didn't work, so he's undoing it, but that was the logic.
 

monothingie

Evil will always triumph, because good is dumb.
Premium Member
“The McKinsey plans weren’t completed, and it isn’t clear whether Mr. Iger will implement any of the consultants’ recommendations, according to people familiar with the situation.”
Oh Iger will. Why? Because he's done this before and Cruella McCarthy is his girl. He'll just blame it on the previous guy and probably do it with a little more grace.

Worried about bad press coverage? He won't be, because he's one of "them". Everyone loves...or fears Bob Iger. They will cover for him.
 
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Nubs70

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How do McKinsey, Bain, BCG, PWC, Sapient, Accenture, Deloitte, Perficient, and their ilk continue to exist? They literally do the exact same thing everywhere they go in spite of "conducting extensive interviews with leadership", leaving behind a deformed husk for their client-partner to clean up.
Disney be downsizing.

Nowhere ever have jobs not been cut after a visit by a consulting firm.
 

JoeCamel

Well-Known Member
How do McKinsey, Bain, BCG, PWC, Sapient, Accenture, Deloitte, Perficient, and their ilk continue to exist? They literally do the exact same thing everywhere they go in spite of "conducting extensive interviews with leadership", leaving behind a deformed husk for their client-partner to clean up.
They were taught this is how you do it in business school. No real experience
 

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