News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!

[GimpYancIent]

I see lots of people in this thread saying they don't go to the theater anymore because their home setup is so nice. But no matter how nice a home setup is, I think it's missing a key element that makes moviegoing enjoyable and rewarding -- the experience of seeing the film as part of a crowd.

I took a quick snapshot of a page from the book "The View from the Bridge," which is a memoir written by Nicholas Meyer. He's the writer and/or director behind such films as Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Time After Time, The Day After, and The Seven-Per-cent Solution. I tend to agree with him. I think we are losing something important by only watching movies in our homes.

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Interesting passage. Interesting commentary. All that said, the fact is to enjoy a production or performance one does not need a crowd. To feel human, one does not need a crowd. Very often it is better to not be part of the herd.

 

[SirLink]

There is zero doubt that the analysts think this is the better strategic move.

I think the problem is Iger-chapek-Iger promised the stock brokers that “the brand” would prevent short term loses.
And that’s not really realistic.

Actually its the opposite that their progressiveness will ultimately lead to the company being sold piecemeal.

 

[AmishGuy91]

I see lots of people in this thread saying they don't go to the theater anymore because their home setup is so nice. But no matter how nice a home setup is, I think it's missing a key element that makes moviegoing enjoyable and rewarding -- the experience of seeing the film as part of a crowd.

At home, I don't have people kicking my seat. I don't have people talking. I don't have tall people sitting in front of me. I don't have 15 minutes of trailers. I don't have to sit through 10 minutes of credits to see a final scene. My snacks don't cost $20. I have the ability to pause. So what is it about seeing a film as part of a crowd that makes it enjoyable and rewarding?

 

[kingdead]

I see lots of people in this thread saying they don't go to the theater anymore because their home setup is so nice. But no matter how nice a home setup is, I think it's missing a key element that makes moviegoing enjoyable and rewarding -- the experience of seeing the film as part of a crowd.

I took a quick snapshot of a page from the book "The View from the Bridge," which is a memoir written by Nicholas Meyer. He's the writer and/or director behind such films as Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan, Time After Time, The Day After, and The Seven-Per-cent Solution. I tend to agree with him. I think we are losing something important by only watching movies in our homes.

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Certain genres of film are best in the theater. Horror is one, because the audience response is part of the fun. Really visually big movies, like the better Marvel movies or Star Wars or Top Gun or Avatar, are still best seen on the largest screen possible. People will pay the ticket cost and overcome aversion to crowds (contagion! mass shooters! seat kickers!) to see these films in theaters.

I'm not sure if people still see Disney/Pixar animation as that kind of movie, though. Parents are 1. tired 2. broke 3. probably already pre paid for the movie in the form of Disney+, they just have to wait, what, a month? A month and a half? That and kids are not the best theatergoers--they cry, they talk, they need to pee, they get scared and bored. Teaching your child how to exist in public is important but is it $50 a pop important?

 

[Club Cooloholic]

So many financial experts in here. Can we get some stock advice? Any buys?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Actually its the opposite that their progressiveness will ultimately lead to the company being sold piecemeal.

That would be the opinion of a fool that thinks the world is gonna “reset” to 1962…where we all smoke luckys next to the water cooler at the toy factory in Ohio

 

[Smiley/OCD]

Certain genres of film are best in the theater. Horror is one, because the audience response is part of the fun. Really visually big movies, like the better Marvel movies or Star Wars or Top Gun or Avatar, are still best seen on the largest screen possible. People will pay the ticket cost and overcome aversion to crowds (contagion! mass shooters! seat kickers!) to see these films in theaters.

I'm not sure if people still see Disney/Pixar animation as that kind of movie, though. Parents are 1. tired 2. broke 3. probably already pre paid for the movie in the form of Disney+, they just have to wait, what, a month? A month and a half? That and kids are not the best theatergoers--they cry, they talk, they need to pee, they get scared and bored. Teaching your child how to exist in public is important but is it $50 a pop important?

You can’t watch Rocky Horror at home…still vacuuming rice out of the carpet…

 

[CaptainAmerica]

There's a great insight on this from none other than Anthony Mackie.

 

[Jrb1979]

Just wondering if you guys have movie tickets available at Costco? Cause at most Costco's in Canada we have movie ticket deals there. For Adults it's $32 for 2 tickets, 2 drinks and a popcorn and for kids it's $12 each.

 

[Incomudro]

Certain genres of film are best in the theater. Horror is one, because the audience response is part of the fun. Really visually big movies, like the better Marvel movies or Star Wars or Top Gun or Avatar, are still best seen on the largest screen possible. People will pay the ticket cost and overcome aversion to crowds (contagion! mass shooters! seat kickers!) to see these films in theaters.

I'm not sure if people still see Disney/Pixar animation as that kind of movie, though. Parents are 1. tired 2. broke 3. probably already pre paid for the movie in the form of Disney+, they just have to wait, what, a month? A month and a half? That and kids are not the best theatergoers--they cry, they talk, they need to pee, they get scared and bored. Teaching your child how to exist in public is important but is it $50 a pop important?

I agree with most of this, except - it was having kids that actually got me back in the theater.
When I was in my 20's, and early 30's, I was almost completely done with the theater.
When our son's were little, films like Cars were in theaters - and getting our twins out of the house - giving them a some place to go day was often much better than staying in the house.
Seeing a movie out of the house was also a great way to break the monotony of the winter months.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So many financial experts in here. Can we get some stock advice? Any buys?

…you act as if much of what’s discussed doesn’t come to pass…

He’s a good one from 2020: don’t buy Disney, it’s being pumped by flippers.

Here’s a current one: if Amazon ever spins off AWS…mortgage every penny for it. Then look for a throne to sit on as king.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Just wondering if you guys have movie tickets available at Costco? Cause at most Costco's in Canada we have movie ticket deals there. For Adults it's $32 for 2 tickets, 2 drinks and a popcorn and for kids it's $12 each.

AMC packages are always on the shelves at the Costco and bjs near me

 

[HauntedPirate]

Calling anyone dumb for enjoying entertainment in how they chose to spend their means should make no one happy.

Why is it bad? People did it for years. I went to see Toy Story twice in theaters and then when it came.out on home video I watched it a lot since I paid to view it at home.

Mentally unhealthy to call people dumb, so while I am not angry. I have no issue telling someone to stop it.

I went to see "The Empire Strikes Back" in the theater during the pandemic, and I've owned that on various pieces of media for decades.

You cannot match a true theater experience, no matter how good someone thinks their home theater is.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Certain genres of film are best in the theater. Horror is one, because the audience response is part of the fun. Really visually big movies, like the better Marvel movies or Star Wars or Top Gun or Avatar, are still best seen on the largest screen possible.

I wouldn't say "largest." Resolution and brightness matter, not to mention seating. IMAX theaters often have miserably uncomfortable chairs, and many of them don't have the right projection technology.

Mr. Cameron filmed The Way of Water to be optimized for Dolby Cinema 3D and that's how I'll be seeing it.

IMAX single-laser setups will support high framerate, but aren't bright enough to overcome the dimming effect you get with 3D. IMAX dual-laser setups are brighter but can't do 4K high framerate, so they've been bumped down to 2K.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Calling anyone dumb for enjoying entertainment in how they chose to spend their means should make no one happy.

Why is it bad? People did it for years. I went to see Toy Story twice in theaters and then when it came.out on home video I watched it a lot since I paid to view it at home.

Mentally unhealthy to call people dumb, so while I am not angry. I have no issue telling someone to stop it.

I don’t know how someone compares sitting on their couch watching a Vizio as equal to even a mediocre theater run?

That doesn’t means theaters will survive…or that it isn’t tedious…I just don’t see how you can act as if there’s no difference?

But I see a lot of “anti-logic” type opinions as reality in the D fandom…so business as usual…

 

[Incomudro]

I went to see "The Empire Strikes Back" in the theater during the pandemic, and I've owned that on various pieces of media for decades.

You cannot match a true theater experience, no matter how good someone thinks their home theater is.

I really realized this when I saw JAWS (my favorite movie) in the theater a couple of months ago.
I've got JAWS on BlueRay - the one where the film was corrected frame by frame - and I've got a nice 55" tv to view it on.
I've seen it it so many times, and know every moment of it.
The only time I saw JAWS in the theater was when it was released.
Well... I saw things - noticed things up on the big screen that I haven't noticed in all of these years.

 

[FigmentFan82]

Because cinemas are not the future

Who said they were? Cinemas are an attraction. Always have been. Unless you have a 50ft wall in your house you will never truly replicate the movie going experience at home. There will always be a place for movie theaters because people like the experience.

 

[HauntedPirate]

I really realized this when I saw JAWS (my favorite movie) in the theater a couple of months ago.
I've got JAWS on BlueRay - the one where the film was corrected frame by frame - and I've got a nice 55" tv to view it on.
I've seen it it so many times, and know every moment of it.
The only time I saw JAWS in the theater was when it was released.
Well... I saw things - noticed things up on the big screen that I haven't noticed in all of these years.

Nonsense, home theater and streaming are the best way to watch movies. An expert here said so.

Humans are social creatures. We need social interaction to thrive. Want to know the best reason to go watch a movie in a theater? IT GETS YOUR OUT OF YOUR DAMN HOUSE AND INTERACTING WITH OTHER HUMANS. This drive over the past few years to do everything in your house is just maddening. Not going into a dozen other issues around that here.

So... what are the odds that Iger throws fans a bone and brings back AP's in not-limited numbers in the swamps?

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Nonsense, home theater and streaming are the best way to watch movies. An expert here said so.

Humans are social creatures. We need social interaction to thrive. Want to know the best reason to go watch a movie in a theater? IT GETS YOUR OUT OF YOUR DAMN HOUSE AND INTERACTING WITH OTHER HUMANS. This drive over the past few years to do everything in your house is just maddening. Not going into a dozen other issues around that here.

So... what are the odds that Iger throws fans a bone and brings back AP's in not-limited numbers in the swamps?

Next thing you're going to tell me is there's value in coming into the office and that work-from-home has exploded beyond any reasonable justification.

 

[FigmentFan82]

On a lark, they dumped it into theaters for a week and hangers-on to the good old days were dumb enough to pay $12 to watch it.

False, Netflix puts movies in theaters to specifically be eligible for awards. That's why they bought a movie theater.