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Sirwalterraleigh

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I wouldn't say "largest." Resolution and brightness matter, not to mention seating. IMAX theaters often have miserably uncomfortable chairs, and many of them don't have the right projection technology.

Mr. Cameron filmed The Way of Water to be optimized for Dolby Cinema 3D and that's how I'll be seeing it.

IMAX single-laser setups will support high framerate, but aren't bright enough to overcome the dimming effect you get with 3D. IMAX dual-laser setups are brighter but can't do 4K high framerate, so they've been bumped down to 2K.
That’s a great point…I have to pre buy those and I’ll get Dolby cinema
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
Who said they were? Cinemas are an attraction. Always have been. Unless you have a 50ft wall in your house you will never truly replicate the movie going experience at home. There will always be a place for movie theaters because people like the experience.
I don’t disagree with this at all. The conversation was about why Disney was going with shorter theatrical windows. I said “because cinemas are not the future” (not “cinemas have no future.”)

Now everyone’s upset thinking I’m some monster who hates going to the movies.
 

_caleb

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You made the comment that theaters were dead, I pointed out that people thought records and record stores went the way of the dinosaurs and are back from ashes to over 1B last year. You made a snarky comment (or so I thought) were ok.
My comment was ”cinemas are not the future.” Like from the perspective of Disney, they’re not counting on that being as big as it may have been in the past business-wise (for many of the reasons I posted in other posts), which is why they’re so focused on streaming.

I think movie theaters are great. And record stores, for that matter!
 

Jrb1979

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My comment was ”cinemas are not the future.” Like from the perspective of Disney, they’re not counting on that being as big as it may have been in the past business-wise (for many of the reasons I posted in other posts), which is why they’re so focused on streaming.

I think movie theaters are great. And record stores, for that matter!
And how's that working out for them? I think there should be a middle ground. If they want to put new movies on D+ so quickly start charging subscribers to watch them. At a year later give them away for "free".
 

Incomudro

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Ah, but that was back when the alternative was renting a DVD. Today's children have three or four screens at their fingertips which are chock full of movies, TV shows, and video games. Why drive just to see another screen?

Poor projection definitely hurts the experience. As do movies that are poorly color corrected or have rushed visual effects. I trust James Cameron to take loving care of Avatar but some of Disney's franchise stuff is really hard to make out--I remember watching Solo and wondering if it was the projectionist's fault or if the lighting had just been that poor originally.
Owning a DVD.
We owned them then.
What driving the kids to another screen did was get them out of the house.
It gave them an event to look forward to.
Kids like the entire process. Going in the car, the drive - getting a snack, (we smuggled ours in 99% of the time, but that was still a treat) they like the previews that are often tedious to us.
The entire process of a trip to the movies is not matched by sticking another DVD in the DVD player, or cuing up a movie on a streaming service.
 

_caleb

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There are many movies where this happens.

Obviously the original Star Wars…but the one I saw not that long ago that really was different was ghostbusters. It’s a spectacle on the big screen, and a SNL comedy at home.
Try turning off motion interpolation.

(NOTE: This is a joke. I do not hate tvs, movie theaters, or Ghost Busters, nor do I think @Sirwalterraleigh watches TV with “motion smoothing” turned on.)
 

_caleb

Well-Known Member
And how's that working out for them? I think there should be a middle ground. If they want to put new movies on D+ so quickly start charging subscribers to watch them. At a year later give them away for "free".
Well, so far it’s worked out great, since their goal was to build up a subscriber base. Now that investors are getting anxious about it making money, we’ll have to see what they’re going to come up with. I don’t think they ever give anything away for free.
 

DonniePeverley

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He may well make a go at reviving Blockbuster

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fgmnt

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That’s so harsh from the journal…yikes

There is a very narrow but equally intriguing social study into this specific position. I think The Walt Disney Company is such a unique creature: it is the largest Fortune 100 Company that is primarily in media holdings. While the IPO is eligible for Medicare, it had significant family influence up until the completion of the Iger ascension. Historically, it's one of the surest stocks ever, rivaling energy and pharmaceutical companies--purveyors of necessities of every day life competing with a movie studio that kept getting bigger. I think the most unique thing about The Walt Disney Company among its contemporaries in the Fortune 100 is right there in the name. Some names describe the core business loosely (Comcast), something abstract (Apple, Alphabet), the product of mergers (ExxonMobil, JP Morgan Chase), or simply a family name of the founders (Kroger, Albertsons), but the identity of The Walt Disney Company is forever inseparable from the first person to ever run it.

This invariably means that whoever finds themselves with the appropriate mindset to even reach the office of CEO for The Walt Disney Company will forever be compared to Walt Disney; by customers, historians, media, employees, fellow company leaders, and of course, the CEOs themselves. If you sit in that chair long enough, not only do you clearly start to think you are the only person with the unique capability to run the company, you might even start to think of yourself as the next Walt Disney.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
It's weird that people are obsessed with theaters but not other events. Nobody is claiming that Spotify is killing Taylor Swift's ability to sell concert tickets. Nobody is claiming that Peacock is killing WWE's ability to sell wrestling tickets. Nobody is claiming that ESPN is killing the NFL's ability to sell football tickets. But Disney+ is killing theaters. I don't get it.
Start by comparing apples and apples

Movies are something that the same packaged content repeat in nearly every town (without variation), multiple times a day, 7 days a week, for weeks or months at a time.

That is not the same for a concert, or a sporting event.

A Live event is not comparable to a recorded media presentation when talking about access, repeatability, etc.

ESPN doesn't bring the NY Giants to my living room.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Well it is News Corp=Murdoch=DeSantis Supporter. Not that they are wrong (paywall but I suspect I would agree with most of it) but they have additional reasons to belittle Disney.
It’s a supporter of massive money and public policy that allows it unfettered.

One isn’t what it once was…one is almost dead and sold off a lot…the other has none
 

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