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Nubs70
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Incomudro
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I only go to the theater to see a film that I believe benefits from a big theater screen (more so than my 55" TV's will provide) and/or I really want to see a film when it first comes out.
LittleBuford
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I don't agree with the bolded. There have been plenty of really excellent shows and films recently that feature a lot of diversity. If anything is well received, however, it is said to have succeeded in spite of its diversity, while flops like Lightyear are held to have failed because of their diversity. That seems a blatant double standard to me.
Tha Realest
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I was speaking about the “lesser quality productions” which inherently doesn’t include “excellent shows and films.” Not sure what point you’re trying to make or baggage you’re bringing to the discussion, but don’t misstate what I clearly said.
LittleBuford
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I didn’t misstate anything. I quoted your assertion and explained why I disagreed with it.
_caleb
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Maybe they should bring back in-house orchestras to play films’ scores.
DisneyHead123
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On the future of theaters… I’m a pessimist. I think they will go the way of malls. Existent, but few and far between. I think people’s general desire to be out and about has decreased since the advent of personal technology and then Covid. And I know that as a mom of a toddler who dreams of a date night without paying a sitter $20 an hour (which basically means no date night in my area), what would motivate me to actually get out of the house are charming restaurants with string lights and unique cocktails and guacamole, or unique local events, or (dares to dream) art exhibits like Van Gogh immersive. Watching a screen when I could stare at a screen in my own house? Probably wouldn’t muster the effort of cleaning 18 layers of toys pre-sitter for that one. I imagine many people feel similarly - even without young children, it takes more enticement to get people out of their homes these days.
If history is any guide, eventually some Next Big Thing comes along that is so expensive it’s not available at a personal, individual level, and so must be experienced communally. So I think theaters will be resurrected eventually when that comes around - maybe in the form of extreme virtual reality or something like that. But until then, I see them going the way of the opera or symphony. Present, but increasingly niche.
If history is any guide, eventually some Next Big Thing comes along that is so expensive it’s not available at a personal, individual level, and so must be experienced communally. So I think theaters will be resurrected eventually when that comes around - maybe in the form of extreme virtual reality or something like that. But until then, I see them going the way of the opera or symphony. Present, but increasingly niche.
Joel
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That's the answer to "How about that Jerome Powell?"
JoeCamel
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They goosed it before they can goose it again
It is hard to break tradition. The fact that not every town has a constant art scene or hip places to visit like musuems prove why Movies work for the spectrum of people who appreciate multiple things. There is always a movie someone wants to see.
It is fine to feel or take a guess that theaters will be on their way out, but I am not sure the screens at home in a good enough argument, as we have had quality TV for a long while now and ones that are good enough for most people's eyes and ears have been around for decades.
Some things are engrained American. The automobile and travel is the same kind of thing. By now we could have systems similar to Tokyo with local trains and fast systems for cross state and country, that would be more beneficial in many ways.
Yet, like the movie theater, Automobiles are a part of our culture. So it may be a long while before it does changes enough to be any different semblance as we know it.
Book stores as a general concept of what we know them as have been around for over a hundred years. Public Libraries and "Print is dead" people have been saying they are dead forever, yet Barnes and Noble and other chains still have great years. Book stores are all over still to this day. They adapted with coffee shops and sell E book readers such as The Kindle as well as other multi media. They continued to be a place where people could buy entertainment. A decent comparison to what is and has happened with theaters. It becomes one of those the more things change the more they stay the same(in spirit)
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Smiley/OCD
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Just like vinyl is dead and no one will EVER shop in a record store again….that’s SO eighties…
DisneyHead123
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Again, I don’t think they’ll go away entirely, just become a niche thing (And I would reverse the analogy with mass transit vs. personal automobiles… personal vehicles are more analogous to individual home theater systems, while mass transit is more akin to the communal experience of theaters. Americans tend to be veeeery individualistic and atomized, so typically anything that is more “bubble like” is the safer bet in regard to how our society will trend. At the moment, at least.)
I will say that one seeming constant of the past several decades has been the technological curveball though. There’s always that crazy new revolution that almost no one really expected or anticipated. The internet is a recent example, but who knows what will come next? Like I said, I could see some big shakeup in technology bringing people into a communal space again. So who knows? Movie theaters replaced opera and theater, at a pop culture level. Streaming may replace movie theaters at a pop culture level. But, eventually, something will replace streaming too!
Disney Maddux
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I respectfully disagree. It is comparable because humans like to take the family and take a drive out, even if it is just to the movie they could see a month later at home. Sometimes dropping 30-40 bucks for the wife and kids to the movie is a perfect excuse to do drive to something before or after grabbing a bite to eat or some ice cream later. To this day it is a thing from mom and dad, family kids day trip or teenagers going on a date. It will always be far more accessible than something that trends in ebb and flow to the extremes of something like a roller rink, which has many accessibility limitations. People still drive to arcades, even when we have great emulators. Video games also take skill and are more niche than film. There are genres of film for everyone. Dates and groups of people love to be entertained.
People still like to go out and dance with strangers without any sexual or romantic escapades attached, when they can literally play any song they can think of from their own device on a great sound system from home. Couples having a night out do the same thing. Movie Theaters are not going anywhere near a niche if they slowly change with the times.
Americans love an excuse to drive to go do something. The cinema fit right in with that and other parts of the world such as China, are realizing that by building more theaters than ever.
The evidence is clear, movies are still profitable because of their theatrical release. It is not yet common enough to make a profit on streaming services to change such a direction. Those streaming service price are likely to increase a lot before that happens.
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_caleb
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Yeah, maybe Iger will open a chain of record stores to really set Disney up for the future.
DisneyHead123
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You may be right - at the moment all I want to do is crash on my couch and sleep so it's hard for me to imagine a cohort of people feeling differently, ha ha, but it doesn't mean they don't exist. Time will tell I guess!
_caleb
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You wouldn’t happen to own a movie theater, would you?