ToTBellHop
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Summary for those who can’t read 66 pages: Bob out. Bob in.
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News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!
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TalkingHead
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Gross
Sir_Cliff
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Perhaps. I do think it is curious that no-one who has worked for Disney has yet (at least that I've seen) expressed any warm feelings toward Chapek.
One interesting observation is that not everything has been fawning press coverage over Iger, which is a remarkable change. Surprisingly, the financials like CNBC and WSJ has been fairly evenly split on negative/positive pieces. Fox has gone all negative. Even CNN and Bloomberg have taken a moderated stance.
Conversely, the entertainment trade publications are going all in on Iger. Very interesting perspective on coverage all around.
Conversely, the entertainment trade publications are going all in on Iger. Very interesting perspective on coverage all around.
Dranth
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It wasn't just the hugs.
flynnibus
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You don't get a designated handler assigned to you simply because you give hugs.
You don't throw away the single biggest piece of a multibillion dollar enterprise because 'hes a hugger'.
I don't know why you have your head in the sand on this one... the guy crossed all kinds of lines to the point where it was no longer sustainable for the company to bury it. Accept it and move on.
TalkingHead
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Why would they? They want to work and Iger’s back on the throne.
Chapek had become the scapegoat for every underperforming creative disappointment from any entertainment division under the Disney banner. You’d think he had prevented all these creatives from producing good work. Was Rise of Skywalker his fault? Was Galaxy’s Edge? Was Lightyear? Was Strange World (assuming it bombs)? And so on.
You don't accept a hatchet job piece in THR as absolute gospel, especially when evidence doesn't come out to establish it as fact. There is nothing to it. Accept it and move on.
Todd H
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In other words...Bobbed.
Strange World looks like it'll do well, people are just itching to give the company black eyes. Rise of Skywalker was a success and did well, so there's nothing to complain about. Removing Turning Red, Luca and Soul from theatrical releases were definite disasters, and they would've done well. If they had, Lightyear would've easily been able to ride that momentum.
MrPromey
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Oh god no, not this again!
I did briefly consider my choice of words when I wrote that.
TwilightZone
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I wouldn't really say that entirely.
Of this list, Soul, Luca, and Turning Red were huge successes. I still see Turning Red memes from the twitter crowd, that amounts to a lot. It seems that the 3 misses: TS4, Onward, and Lightyear were just such huge on how they missed that they overshadow how well the hits turned out. What Pixar needs to work on is more original stories, less Toy Story sequels, and less stories that feel like they were churned out from a machine (Onward, Lightyear).
The only bona fide "miss" Pixar has ever done is The Good Dinosaur. All other movies are good to great. It's just that simple. They're wonderful films, and I hate the handwringing, teeth gnashing and narrow-minded standards of "A Pixar movie should be this." I'm sick of that. The problem is you. Not the movies. YOU.
TalkingHead
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Ep 9 was an unmitigated disaster. The fact SW features got shelved after it says volumes. Lightyear got mediocre reviews and generated poor word of mouth. Fact is, those other Pixar features probably wouldn’t have don’t much business in theaters post-pandemic. Hard to say how they would’ve played in the old days. Strange World, maybe it’ll do well. We’ll soon find out.
TalkingHead
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Do they have to pay Disney a tax for meme usage or something?
Tha Realest
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Must be nice inventing new definitions for “success” and “miss” that don’t rely on objective profit and loss considerations. We can debate whether Soul/Luca/TR achieved what the company wanted during those strange years, but to call them “huge successes” because you see a meme every once in awhile is just simply not true.
Nothing's "shelved." Everything from Rogue Squadron to the Taika Waititi film to the Feige-produced one to the Rian Johnson trilogy are still on the table. Reformulating projects as streaming series is not "defeat." Lucasfilm is not running around like chickens with their heads cut off, despite how many angry fanboys claim that. They've been lying about Star Wars ever since the prequels.
el_super
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The part that doesn't really make sense to me though, is what exactly Chapek did that wasn't planned by Iger. My biggest complaint against Chapek for the last two years has been his robotic way of essentially reading from Iger's playbook without understanding what he was saying. There was no grand vision or plan, aside from "Stay the course." To turn around and suggest that he was SO BAD that a cabal of Iger Loyalists (LOL at that) had to step up to save the company... It's weird. Granted there could have been some deeper interpersonal flaws that we never really saw or were aware of but aside from that...
There is a lot of storytelling going on at Disney.