flynnibus
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Congrats!
Unfortunately your personal boundaries do not define them for others. So time to move on.
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News Bob Iger is back! Chapek is out!!
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Unfortunately your personal boundaries do not define them for others. So time to move on.
denyuntilcaught
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That's not what happened. That's the narrative for the news cycle, but guarantee that's not what actually happened.
Well, when Pixar was gearing up in the '90s, the press reported on Lasseter's hugs quite approvingly, saying it was proof that he's a real great guy.
Let's also be real for one thing here: A lot of all this is people reinventing the past and rewriting history to suit the social climate. Lasseter's hugs used to be understood in their proper context. Now they're not, they're just grist for the "Dirty Laundry" scandal mill. Don Henley continues to be proven right.
TwilightZone
Well-Known Member
I remember when people disliked MMC, but honestly it was the best thing to happen to Mickey in years up to that point. I remember catching glimpses of it at an age where I considered myself "too old" for preschool shows, and finding myself charmed with it. It's a solid educational show.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Summary for those who can’t read 66 pages: Bob out. Bob in.
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
Gross
Sir_Cliff
Well-Known Member
Perhaps. I do think it is curious that no-one who has worked for Disney has yet (at least that I've seen) expressed any warm feelings toward Chapek.
One interesting observation is that not everything has been fawning press coverage over Iger, which is a remarkable change. Surprisingly, the financials like CNBC and WSJ has been fairly evenly split on negative/positive pieces. Fox has gone all negative. Even CNN and Bloomberg have taken a moderated stance.
Conversely, the entertainment trade publications are going all in on Iger. Very interesting perspective on coverage all around.
Conversely, the entertainment trade publications are going all in on Iger. Very interesting perspective on coverage all around.
Dranth
Well-Known Member
It wasn't just the hugs.
flynnibus
Premium Member
You don't get a designated handler assigned to you simply because you give hugs.
You don't throw away the single biggest piece of a multibillion dollar enterprise because 'hes a hugger'.
I don't know why you have your head in the sand on this one... the guy crossed all kinds of lines to the point where it was no longer sustainable for the company to bury it. Accept it and move on.
TalkingHead
Well-Known Member
Why would they? They want to work and Iger’s back on the throne.
Chapek had become the scapegoat for every underperforming creative disappointment from any entertainment division under the Disney banner. You’d think he had prevented all these creatives from producing good work. Was Rise of Skywalker his fault? Was Galaxy’s Edge? Was Lightyear? Was Strange World (assuming it bombs)? And so on.
You don't accept a hatchet job piece in THR as absolute gospel, especially when evidence doesn't come out to establish it as fact. There is nothing to it. Accept it and move on.
Todd H
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In other words...Bobbed.
Strange World looks like it'll do well, people are just itching to give the company black eyes. Rise of Skywalker was a success and did well, so there's nothing to complain about. Removing Turning Red, Luca and Soul from theatrical releases were definite disasters, and they would've done well. If they had, Lightyear would've easily been able to ride that momentum.
MrPromey
Well-Known Member
Oh god no, not this again!
I did briefly consider my choice of words when I wrote that.
TwilightZone
Well-Known Member
I wouldn't really say that entirely.
Of this list, Soul, Luca, and Turning Red were huge successes. I still see Turning Red memes from the twitter crowd, that amounts to a lot. It seems that the 3 misses: TS4, Onward, and Lightyear were just such huge on how they missed that they overshadow how well the hits turned out. What Pixar needs to work on is more original stories, less Toy Story sequels, and less stories that feel like they were churned out from a machine (Onward, Lightyear).
The only bona fide "miss" Pixar has ever done is The Good Dinosaur. All other movies are good to great. It's just that simple. They're wonderful films, and I hate the handwringing, teeth gnashing and narrow-minded standards of "A Pixar movie should be this." I'm sick of that. The problem is you. Not the movies. YOU.
