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PaulZ

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If Trams return to all of the parks and run consistently like pre-pandemic, we will probably get AP’s again (pending they offer one other than that cheapest one).
 

Mmoore29

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Must be nice inventing new definitions for “success” and “miss” that don’t rely on objective profit and loss considerations. We can debate whether Soul/Luca/TR achieved what the company wanted during those strange years, but to call them “huge successes” because you see a meme every once in awhile is just simply not true.
Wizard of Oz technically lost money in 1939, but MGM said, "This isn't a failure, not really, because everyone's seen it and likes it. We succeeded in ways more important than money." And they were right.

And it's not memes running things. This is because I've seen the movies and I love them, with the exception of The Good Dinosaur. I love them, wholeheartedly. And having arbitrary standards of what makes a Pixar movie is absurd.
 

Tha Realest

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Ep 9 was an unmitigated disaster. The fact SW features got shelved after it says volumes. Lightyear got mediocre reviews and generated poor word of mouth. Fact is, those other Pixar features probably wouldn’t have don’t much business in theaters post-pandemic. Hard to say how they would’ve played in the old days. Strange World, maybe it’ll do well. We’ll soon find out.
Bob Iger “paused” any further SW theatrical projects after the release of Ep 8 and SOLO, in April of 2019, a full nine months before Ep 9 was released. But go off.

 

TwilightZone

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Must be nice inventing new definitions for “success” and “miss” that don’t rely on objective profit and loss considerations. We can debate whether Soul/Luca/TR achieved what the company wanted during those strange years, but to call them “huge successes” because you see a meme every once in awhile is just simply not true.
I suppose that is true, if we value success from memes, then Morbious would be the most successful movie ever and Minions Rise of Gru would not be widely forgotten now.

However, Luca did sell out shelves during it's entire run, it's merch was hugely successful. Turning Red seemed to me to be a critical darling for the zoomer crowd, which I feel is important since that is Disney - Pixar's main target audience at the end of the day: children and young adults. And Soul, well I saw a clip of a fireworks show on youtube featuring a Soul segment the other day and it got a LOUD reaction. I am sure fireworks show isn't really an indicator of how well it did overall, but that's still a decent amount of people to be notable.
 

Trauma

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I wouldn't really say that entirely.

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Of this list, Soul, Luca, and Turning Red were huge successes. I still see Turning Red memes from the twitter crowd, that amounts to a lot. It seems that the 3 misses: TS4, Onward, and Lightyear were just such huge on how they missed that they overshadow how well the hits turned out. What Pixar needs to work on is more original stories, less Toy Story sequels, and less stories that feel like they were churned out from a machine (Onward, Lightyear).
Are you just making stuff up?

I don’t have time to refute all of this but Turning Red alone was a $160 million loss.
 

Sir_Cliff

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I suppose that is true, if we value success from memes, then Morbious would be the most successful movie ever and Minions Rise of Gru would not be widely forgotten now.

However, Luca did sell out shelves during it's entire run, it's merch was hugely successful. Turning Red seemed to me to be a critical darling for the zoomer crowd, which I feel is important since that is Disney - Pixar's main target audience at the end of the day: children and young adults. And Soul, well I saw a clip of a fireworks show on youtube featuring a Soul segment the other day and it got a LOUD reaction. I am sure fireworks show isn't really an indicator of how well it did overall, but that's still a decent amount of people to be notable.
Luca was also the most-streamed movie for 2021. If we're talking about a movie that went straight to streaming, that seems like a pretty good metric of success.
 

Joel

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-Arrange a special ABC News/Diane Sawyer Interview for Ellen DeGeneres, especially for her to give out her side of the story at last in light of the criticism she has been receiving recently, and insults and attacks on her character. Give her the chance to respond to the claims, as well as of course taking advantage of the recent uptick of interest with the tragic death of Anne Heche. Also feature mother Betty, brother Vance, and Portia DeRossi as part of the interview.
Nice try, Ellen's publicist.
 

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