Matt_Black
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There's "respecting the work" and "taking the work too seriously". George, for all his faults, didn't take things too seriously.
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Bob Iger at WDW now ... BoD to Follow?
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There's "respecting the work" and "taking the work too seriously". George, for all his faults, didn't take things too seriously.
Nemo14
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JordanNite
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I see still no news?
Yawn. There will be no news. Iger doesn't spend money.
Seeing links about an upcoming Star Wars Land from 'insiders' in 2014 is utterly depressing.
Yawn. There will be no news. Iger doesn't spend money.
Seeing links about an upcoming Star Wars Land from 'insiders' in 2014 is utterly depressing.
sshindel
The Epcot Manifesto
I still think 3/4 of it is an amazing place.
But to my point, if they don't care about "us", they wouldn't care about us enough to try and discredit insiders that only "us" care about.
BrerJon
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Disney is like the ex lover who says 'just give me one more try, I'll be different this time!'. You want to believe they've changed, and all their friends say they've changed, but it's still hard to have faith until they prove it. But you have to give them a chance, you can't just dismiss them completely.
Look at the rumours hinted at / suggested on here... 4 Billion plus budget, new Star Wars hotel in addition to a brand new DHS, new monorail, plus some things fixed up at Epcot, new management with new attitude in charge of things... if all the speculation comes off, it will be great, but every day does seem to bring some new incredible thing that the budget is supposed to be paying for, and all this talk of everything in WDW being fixed by one Board of Directors meeting, and a new golden age arriving, just seems way too good to be true, and setting things up for disappointment.
So inevitably whatever happens won't be as good as people are hoping for, but if we keep expectations low - a couple of nice rides and mini-lands for DHS, a few broken lightbulbs fixed across the rest of the property, then we can be pleasantly surprised if we get anything more, instead of bitterly disappointed they didn't give us what we hoped for.
EDIT: Edited to be less offensive!
Look at the rumours hinted at / suggested on here... 4 Billion plus budget, new Star Wars hotel in addition to a brand new DHS, new monorail, plus some things fixed up at Epcot, new management with new attitude in charge of things... if all the speculation comes off, it will be great, but every day does seem to bring some new incredible thing that the budget is supposed to be paying for, and all this talk of everything in WDW being fixed by one Board of Directors meeting, and a new golden age arriving, just seems way too good to be true, and setting things up for disappointment.
So inevitably whatever happens won't be as good as people are hoping for, but if we keep expectations low - a couple of nice rides and mini-lands for DHS, a few broken lightbulbs fixed across the rest of the property, then we can be pleasantly surprised if we get anything more, instead of bitterly disappointed they didn't give us what we hoped for.
EDIT: Edited to be less offensive!
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PhotoDave219
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That includes managing expectations and killing bad rumors, right?
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
I wanted to read this post but could not get past the abusive lover analogy. yowser that is a bit much.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
You're not very bright are you?
Matt_Black
Well-Known Member
He just hates Iger. Remember, somehow Bob personally and single-handedly ruined his vacation.
OK, so I was last here (or logged in here) Friday night and we were on page 79 as the clock ticked to Saturday. Now, we're on Monday evening and on 103. And I haven't said a word. What happened?
Oh ... yeah ... I was right (I hate to say I told you so, even with good news, but I did see it coming) and others have heard the same thing? Has Disney announced additional closures yet (look for Animation, One Man's Dream and the Honey playground to shortly shutter) or has a Lifestyler heard this from CMs at Disney-MGM who are being told?
More importantly, are my fans in the Twivterse pretending that this isn't happening because sometimes I can be a bit ... a bit ... blunt ... and I send them to bed crying into their Figgy (soon to be replaced by Bing Bong?) plush?
You must realize that despite my personal 'fan club' here that I'd much rather place out news that will make the vast majority of you smile than grimace or shed a tear. Well, the time has come (even we have a long five years of closures, price hikes, construction walls and bit by bit announcements to follow). And while I make no guarantees about all of what's going to happen, I will say that some (if left largely intact) will be top quality product.
My advice, though, don't spend money on WDW in 2015. There's nothing new and nothing worth your time and $$$. Next year? If you are a big fan of DAK and/or Frozen, then do it. If not, wait a few years at least. Visit UNI/SEAS/Busch if you are coming to FL. Better yet, visit parks elsewhere be they in the USA or abroad. ... Do so with the knowledge that one day (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but sorta soon and until they tear them down for lesser attractions) some really kewl stuff is finally going to sprout in the swamps.
P.S. I'm also quite right about Disney's troubles in China, but most of you either know that, don't care or both!
Oh ... yeah ... I was right (I hate to say I told you so, even with good news, but I did see it coming) and others have heard the same thing? Has Disney announced additional closures yet (look for Animation, One Man's Dream and the Honey playground to shortly shutter) or has a Lifestyler heard this from CMs at Disney-MGM who are being told?
More importantly, are my fans in the Twivterse pretending that this isn't happening because sometimes I can be a bit ... a bit ... blunt ... and I send them to bed crying into their Figgy (soon to be replaced by Bing Bong?) plush?
You must realize that despite my personal 'fan club' here that I'd much rather place out news that will make the vast majority of you smile than grimace or shed a tear. Well, the time has come (even we have a long five years of closures, price hikes, construction walls and bit by bit announcements to follow). And while I make no guarantees about all of what's going to happen, I will say that some (if left largely intact) will be top quality product.
My advice, though, don't spend money on WDW in 2015. There's nothing new and nothing worth your time and $$$. Next year? If you are a big fan of DAK and/or Frozen, then do it. If not, wait a few years at least. Visit UNI/SEAS/Busch if you are coming to FL. Better yet, visit parks elsewhere be they in the USA or abroad. ... Do so with the knowledge that one day (maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but sorta soon and until they tear them down for lesser attractions) some really kewl stuff is finally going to sprout in the swamps.
P.S. I'm also quite right about Disney's troubles in China, but most of you either know that, don't care or both!
Captain Neo
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If the rumors are true that a good size chunk of the backlot area and animation courtyard is being bulldozed just to make way for a FL version of Toy Story Land from HK with basically themed up off the shelf rides I will be severely disappointed in John Lasseter
GoofGoof
Premium Member
The board members don't care about guest experience because they are a bunch of nice guys who just want your vacation to be "magical". The BoD is interested in guest experience because happy guests stay longer, visit more frequently and spend more while they are there. This was proven with DCA. You are assuming actual park gross margin for DHS is up, but we don't have any actual numbers to support that. Costs are obviously down, but attendance isn't exactly strong like Dave was saying and we have no idea where guest spending numbers are for the park for food and merchandise. I think they may be looking at much less healthy numbers than you suspect just based on attendance not bottoming out. How many unique, 1 day tickets are sold for DHS vs the other parks? How many hours do guests spend in the park? How much do they spend compared to the other parks?
If only they had a system that tracked guest behavior and gave them all these numbers to compare
That is true. And I expect these plans to morph somewhat. But the key is somewhat. Just like the Extreme Makeover: Theme Park Edition Season 1 played out at DCA (things that were going to happen didn't, others did ... and some things wound up happening anyway -- Condor Flats being devoured by the Grizzly Peak NP theme -- did a few years later!), I'd expect similar to happen this go around.
The one important thing is: the project is moving forward (projects, actually) and they are major and they have funding. And that funding won't suddenly move to China or Paris or the new CP/Interactive hybrid that was announced today or even to securing the Potter film rights for another decade for ABC Family!
Nope, this be happening. (Should I do a patented Spirit Be Right Yet Again Dance?)
El Grupo
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Just curious, where are you seeing/hearing such rumors?
Yes.
ToTBellHop
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yes, OMD and Animation are closing in two weeks. Nothing on HISTK yet though that is obviously no surprise.
So Figment is finally getting a facelift. Inside-out is great and if they just add the bugs to Living with the Land, Future World West will be Pixarland!
Nemo14
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yes - I'd pay to see that!
Captain Neo
Well-Known Member
Like I said on another page though while new projects are a breath of fresh air they still won't resolve the fundamental issues of WDW including the unwillingness of management to close rides throughout the year for needed refurbishments, maintaining basic upkeep and maintenance of attractions (broken AA's and special effects should be unacceptable), the lowering of food quality & hotel standards, etc.