Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

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Here's just one example

It's a theme that comes up a lot. We all love Disney or we wouldn't be on the boards. It's ok to think they can do better. If I don't think an offering is up to par, I'll say it and they won't get my business. Just because someone holds them to a higher standard, doesn't mean they're less of a fan. Wakanda isn't making less because negative fans. It's making less because of the choices they made with the film.

In my opinion, Wakanda Forever is a great film. I’m a Black Panther fan, and I think they handled the handoff well.

I think the social and political perspectives that always seem to come into play in evaluating, well, everything these days absolutely came into play here. Negative word of mouth (unwarranted, in my opinion, and too early to be entirely legitimate) had an effect on BO.

But since I’m also of the mind that moviegoing isn’t what it was, I think box office may not be the best indicator of public reaction to the film.

I would be happy with a lower-budget BP series, BTW. I think they could do some fun and interesting worldbuilding with a D+ series set in Wakanda.

 

[MisterPenguin]

‘Wakanda Forever’ Overperforms During Sleepy December Weekend; ‘Violent Night’ Too With $13M+ – Sunday Box Office Update

SUNDAY AM UPDATE: On one of the dullest weekends of the year, it’s good to see some movies overperforming. And we have the fourth weekend of Disney/Marvel Studios’ Black Panther: Wakand…

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1.) Black Panther: Wakanda Forever (Dis), 3.855 (-435) theaters, Fri $4.4M (-76%)/Sat $8.08M, Sun $5.1M, 3-day $17.59M (-61%)/Total: $393.7M/Wk 4

The pic is running 6% ahead of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness through four weekends and has a running total of $733M Worldwide.

 

[DKampy]

What’s with all the people acting like the bottom fell out on Wakanda Forever…I would think a 61% drop on the weekend after Thanksgiving would be respectable….people generally have a lot going on that week too

 

[Prince-1]

What’s with all the people acting like the bottom fell out on Wakanda Forever…I would think a 61% drop on the weekend after Thanksgiving would be respectable….people generally have a lot going on that week too

Stop using logic. Trolls have smaller brains and have trouble processing things that make sense.

 

[erasure fan1]

In my opinion, Wakanda Forever is a great film. I’m a Black Panther fan, and I think they handled the handoff well.

I think the social and political perspectives that always seem to come into play in evaluating, well, everything these days absolutely came into play here. Negative word of mouth (unwarranted, in my opinion, and too early to be entirely legitimate) had an effect on BO.

From what I've seen, the reviews are mostly positive. Even sites that are usually the first to release a headline like "DISNEYS LATEST ULTRA FLOP!!!!" Have said it's done ok. I'm sure there are some who are "boycotting" because of the social political stuff, but I don't think that is the reason it probably won't do what the first did. I'd say the quick turn to D+ is a much bigger factor.

 

[MisterPenguin]

As posted above, BPWF is 6% ahead of DSitUoM, and that almost hit a billion dollars.

So, if BPWF keeps that lead over DS, it will break a billion.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I'd say the quick turn to D+ is a much bigger factor.

Who says there's going to be a quick turn to D+?

 

[erasure fan1]

Who says there's going to be a quick turn to D+?

No one, it's just expected. And there lies the problem.

 

[Prince-1]

Who says there's going to be a quick turn to D+?

erasure fan1 did. Try and keep up.

 

[erasure fan1]

erasure fan1 did. Try and keep up.

Lol.
@Prince-1 , the greatest Disney fan in history. Just ask him!!!

 

[CaptainAmerica]

No one, it's just expected. And there lies the problem.

I'm sure it's possible, but at some point they need to get out of "pandemic mode" and retrain audiences. They're going to do it with Avatar either way, but I hope they'll start here.

 

[Disney Irish]

No one, it's just expected. And there lies the problem.

Except its already been reported that Wakanda won't be hitting D+ until after the new year, probably closer (if not longer) to the 70 day window for Shang-Chi.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wakanda stays in theaters until February when Quantumania comes out.

 

[Jedijax719]

From what I've seen, the reviews are mostly positive. Even sites that are usually the first to release a headline like "DISNEYS LATEST ULTRA FLOP!!!!" Have said it's done ok. I'm sure there are some who are "boycotting" because of the social political stuff, but I don't think that is the reason it probably won't do what the first did. I'd say the quick turn to D+ is a much bigger factor.

See, now we can definitely agree on something. D+ has been a factor for everything that will show on it. It will probably impact Avatar 2 also, but that has the holidays so it will do better than most. (although I don't think it will get that close to TGM, let alone SM: NWH).

As for when WF will hit D+, I suspect they will want to keep it in theaters until at least MLK weekend is over. It'll be making peanuts by then, but still. MLK is very important to what the BP franchise means.

 

[erasure fan1]

Except its already been reported that Wakanda won't be hitting D+ until after the new year, probably closer (if not longer) to the 70 day window for Shang-Chi.

I wouldn't be surprised if Wakanda stays in theaters until February when Quantumania comes out.

Ok. Maybe it does. That doesn't change anything. First off a quick search brings up all speculation and the 45 day window. If the average person just searches the movie and disney+, the prominent thing is 45 days. But there isn't a for sure answer. The issue is 45 days ish has been the norm. That's the standard Disney has set.

 

[DKampy]

Also if this get some Oscar love...I am sure they will want to keep this in theaters as long as possible...I am not confident it will except probably Angela Basset....but there is still some talk...and I think it is still possible

 

[Californian Elitist]

Also if this get some Oscar love...I am sure they will want to keep this in theaters as long as possible...I am not confident it will except probably Angela Basset....but there is still some talk...and I think it is still possible

I think the movie at least deserves Oscar nominations for best costuming and best score.

 

[DKampy]

I think the movie at least deserves Oscar nominations for best costuming and best score.

I do agree costuming will probably get a nod...I was more thinking of the awards general audiences pays attention to...and if those awards happen I think Disney would want to keep WF in theaters as close to the awards ceremony as possible

 

[Jedijax719]

Maybe Best Supporting Actress (Angela Basset) but I don't know about Best Picture.

 

[erasure fan1]

See, now we can definitely agree on something. D+ has been a factor for everything that will show on it. It will probably impact Avatar 2 also, but that has the holidays so it will do better than most. (although I don't think it will get that close to TGM, let alone SM: NWH).

As for when WF will hit D+, I suspect they will want to keep it in theaters until at least MLK weekend is over.

Careful, a certain @Prince-1 might turn on you! It's not ok to fraternize, let alone agree, with people who question how Disney does things!

Avatar is a toss up. If they can get the word out it won't be coming to D+ in a month and a half, that could make a big difference. Of course it might just be a big enough spectacle that everyone just has to go see it and nothing really matters.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Ok. Maybe it does. That doesn't change anything. First off a quick search brings up all speculation and the 45 day window. If the average person just searches the movie and disney+, the prominent thing is 45 days. But there isn't a for sure answer. The issue is 45 days ish has been the norm. That's the standard Disney has set.

1. No, that's not the standard *Disney* has set, it's the standard COVID forced upon them.

2. No random person walking around on the streets has any clue what the average theatrical window is today or ever has been. "I'll just wait for it on streaming" is no different that 10 years ago "I'll just wait for it on HBO."