Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[Californian Elitist]

Namor's Ethnicity Explained: MCU vs. Comics

Namor the Submariner, Marvel's very first superhero (or antihero to be more precise) is finally getting some screen time in the new Black Panther: Wakanda

fictionhorizon.com

"What is Namor's ethnicity? In the comics, Namor is stated to be a son of a human sailor and Atlantean princess which would make him a part of the Mermanus race. He was usually depicted as being of Asian ethnicity due to his physical features."

"Namor was depicted as having Asian features in the comics. He looks different than the rest of the Atlanteans due to being part human. Instead of having blue skin like most other Atlanteans, he has pale skin combined with slightly slanted eyes and dark hair. He also has pointy ears and wings on his ankles. So in technical terms, we can’t say that he is Asian. He is obviously a part of an altogether different race of aquatic superhumans. But to say that he doesn’t look Asian in the comics would be wrong."

He’s not “supposed” to look like any particular race, as the filmmakers have creative liberty and can cast whoever they want.

Accept it. You have no choice but to.

 

[Disney Irish]

Namor's Ethnicity Explained: MCU vs. Comics

Namor the Submariner, Marvel's very first superhero (or antihero to be more precise) is finally getting some screen time in the new Black Panther: Wakanda

fictionhorizon.com

"What is Namor's ethnicity? In the comics, Namor is stated to be a son of a human sailor and Atlantean princess which would make him a part of the Mermanus race. He was usually depicted as being of Asian ethnicity due to his physical features."

"Namor was depicted as having Asian features in the comics. He looks different than the rest of the Atlanteans due to being part human. Instead of having blue skin like most other Atlanteans, he has pale skin combined with slightly slanted eyes and dark hair. He also has pointy ears and wings on his ankles. So in technical terms, we can’t say that he is Asian. He is obviously a part of an altogether different race of aquatic superhumans. But to say that he doesn’t look Asian in the comics would be wrong."

I'm sorry but that site is not some "authority" on the subject, they are providing an opinion not fact.

Marvel created and owns the character, they get to decide how they want that character depicted in the movies THEY create. This is not like its some other company creating the movie, its Marvel themselves creating the movie. So if they say that Namor in the MCU is of Mesoamerican descent then that is what the character is as they are the FINAL authority no one else.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Indigenous peoples of the Americas are descended from Asians.

Genetic history of Indigenous peoples of the Americas - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[doctornick]

If we're going to be hung up on the comics then understand Namor's human dad is a white guy from Boston: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Leonard_McKenzie_(Earth-616)

So you're arguing to go against comic canon because white guy + blue woman = was drawn with Asian features in some interpretations.

No one can be more Asian than a guy named Leonard McKenzie from New England in the early 20th century.

 

[Jedijax719]

And this ROCKS!

 

[Jedijax719]

We’ve Got *Super* Marvel and Disney News, Right in Time for the Holidays

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[Jedijax719]

Tickets have apparently quietly gone on sale at AMC without any hoopla or fanfare.

This must be a new Bob Chapek style of marketing directive.

That or they are afraid of crashing servers.

This is very weird!

 

[DCBaker]

New trailer -

 

[Jedijax719]

Boom there it is!

That was INTENSE!!!!

 

[WDWmazprty]

Should be awesome! Can't wait to see how Namor is, looks like he will be pretty formidable.

 

[DCBaker]

 

[Jedijax719]

Hmmm.....two different looks at the Black Panther mask in those two posters.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Anyone familiar with Cinelytic?!?

They seem to be suggesting wakanda will be the 3rd biggest box office of the year?

Interesting.

 

[Ghost93]

Anyone familiar with Cinelytic?!?

They seem to be suggesting wakanda will be the 3rd biggest box office of the year?

Interesting.

If the movie is GREAT, I could see it beating both Top Gun and Avatar at the domestic box office.

However, if the movie is a mixed bag (due to the circumstances surrounding Chadwick's death), I think it will come in third place. It really all comes down to whether audiences appreciate how the film handles the passing of Boseman. It's a wild card.

I think Avatar the Way of Water will be the top movie at the worldwide box office because the movie is very popular in foreign countries.

 

[Jedijax719]

Anyone familiar with Cinelytic?!?

They seem to be suggesting wakanda will be the 3rd biggest box office of the year?

Interesting.

Gotta admit, that is not a big stretch of the imagination. While I would LOVE to see it surpass TGM and do better than Avatar2, I don't see that happening. Not a failure, though, if it falls short of those two behemoths.

Predictions:
OW: $180-$190 million
Domestic: $470-$500 million
Nothing to cry home about that is for sure.

 

[Frankenstein79]

It will be interesting to see what they do with the sequel. Because they probably had ideas that they were going to do. That unfortunately had to go out the window, with Chadwick's untimely passing.

 

[erasure fan1]

If the movie is GREAT, I could see it beating both Top Gun and Avatar at the domestic box office.

I'm not sure. There are a lot of people who are down on Disney and the MCU right now. Not enough to make it fail in my opinion, but enough to keep it out of the top spot. It would need to out produce the first film to pass top gun. In the climate we are in, I'm not sure it can hit that mark. Too many people have the wait for D+ attitude, Especially with the uncertainty of the film like you said. Maybe it will be a fantastic, but even then I can see it falling short.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I'm not sure. There are a lot of people who are down on Disney and the MCU right now. Not enough to make it fail in my opinion, but enough to keep it out of the top spot. It would need to out produce the first film to pass top gun. In the climate we are in, I'm not sure it can hit that mark. Too many people have the wait for D+ attitude, Especially with the uncertainty of the film like you said. Maybe it will be a fantastic, but even then I can see it falling short.

Well the gist i saw…at least with the North American box office…is it will finish top gun, avatar, wakanda in that order.

The box office really hasn’t recovered. No way home had a hyper inflated gross…cause it wasn’t that good…which I’m attributing to “Covid revenge”…cause it wasn’t that good…is kinda an outlier at this point. The anomaly. Maverick has that kinda thing going too.

 

[Jedijax719]

It will be interesting to see what they do with the sequel. Because they probably had ideas that they were going to do. That unfortunately had to go out the window, with Chadwick's untimely passing.

I have a strong feeling many of the same basic story beats were kept intact. What changed was how Wakanda dealt with them after T'Challa's passing. The internal struggles will be with multiple characters whereas they may have solely been on T'Challa. Add to that a mighty kingdom without its beloved leader and it makes for a more vulnerable position.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I have a strong feeling many of the same basic story beats were kept intact. What changed was how Wakanda dealt with them after T'Challa's passing. The internal struggles will be with multiple characters whereas they may have solely been on T'Challa. Add to that a mighty kingdom without its beloved leader and it makes for a more vulnerable position.

I think it will suck and get lost trying to be “great” without boseman

But that’s just what Occam’s razor says as it stands