Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[doctornick]

Wakanda Forever: Marvel Confirms Major Change to Namor's Atlantis

Tenoch Huerta’s Namor will soon debut in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, introducing his undersea nation in live-action for the first time. While the source material portrays the Sub-Mariner as the king of Atlantis, Marvel Studios is making a major location to the location. Within the MCU, the...

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My guess is that this new world is actually a nation that is part of the larger Atlantis OR is the modern descendant of Atlantis.

Several prominent YTers suggest that they are purposely steering clear of the name Atlantis in favor of something different (since DCEU already claimed it with Aquaman).

I don’t think it’s really anything to do with Aquaman and DC - Wonder Women, for example, didn’t deter them from bringing in Greek gods to the MCU. And Atlantis is a generic enough idea that I don’t think anyone would be bothered by having competing concepts, just like people understand different versions of Robin Hood or Sherlock Holmes or whatever

I think the change is more motivated by Disney’s push for inclusion and diversity. There hasn’t been much Latino or indigenous American representation in Marvel and this is an easy way to expand that. And can also allow them to use Mayan mythology which is a pretty cool thing.

 

[UNCgolf]

Is it confirmed they are using Mayan influences? I'm wondering if maybe they will do Aztec instead, because I was reading about Tenoch Huerta and his ancestry is Aztec (technically Nahua, but the Aztec came from the Nahua) and Purepecha, which was a separate, contemporaneous empire that the Aztec never conquered. He's not Mayan.

Not that that means they couldn't still use Mayan influences, of course.

 

[Jedijax719]

Sorry if people thought this was an update. I was just thinking.

They just released Marvel Legends: Hulk on Disney+ in prep for She-Hulk. I wonder if they will release a bunch of Marvel Legends in prep for BP2. Maybe one per week starting in early October. I was thinking they could have one each for:

Wakanda
Vibranium
Shuri
Okoye/Dor Malaje
M'Baku
And finishing it with a touching one for T'challa himself.

 

[mary2013]

Sorry if people thought this was an update. I was just thinking.

They just released Marvel Legends: Hulk on Disney+ in prep for She-Hulk. I wonder if they will release a bunch of Marvel Legends in prep for BP2. Maybe one per week starting in early October. I was thinking they could have one each for:

Wakanda
Vibranium
Shuri
Okoye/Dor Malaje
M'Baku
And finishing it with a touching one for T'challa himself.

Disney+ usually releases these character Legends all together for an upcoming movie or show. Not weekly.

 

[Jedijax719]

I wonder if there are any plans to re-release BP1 in theaters before BP2's release. It would be a nice tribute to Chadwick.

 

[Disney Irish]

I wonder if there are any plans to re-release BP1 in theaters before BP2's release. It would be a nice tribute to Chadwick.

Would be a nice way to have BP jump up on the all-time list too....

Take back that spot from Maverick....

 

[DCBaker]

 

[MickeyMouse10]

I was hoping they were going to get a Black Panther from another universe. This way we could get Michael B. Jordan in the role. In his universe he could be the one that was given the title.

It would create a great storyline for the movie. Because when he arrives on our earth everyone is scared of him. Because all they see when they look at him is the evil version.

 

[Jedijax719]

New trailer next week.

 

[Ghost93]

New trailer next week.

I suspect they'll want the Wakanda Forever second trailer to play in front of Black Adam.

And I bet the second Avatar: The Way of Water trailer will debut sometime in late October/early November so that it plays in front of Wakanda Forever.

 

[Jedijax719]

Anyone think they'll utilize Monday Night Football on ESPN for the official trailer? (like they did for all 3 modern SW movies?) Disney seems to like putting trailers in Monday night football.

Was thinking that would be this coming week but there's been no word at all (usually some insider somewhere reveals the date).

Maybe next Monday (October 3)? Just a few days after the Empire Magazine release? Seems like a good time to do it. And last year's Superbowl champs the Rams will attract a large audience. Los Angeles vs San Francisco would be a good match-up to generate a lot of viewings (not that it won't be on Youtube immediately anyway).

 

[DCBaker]

"In an interview with Empire, Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige explained the decision to not recast T’Challa, at least yet. “It just felt like it was much too soon to recast,” he said. “Stan Lee always said that Marvel represents the world outside your window. And we had talked about how, as extraordinary and fantastical as our characters and stories are, there’s a relatable and human element to everything we do. The world is still processing the loss of Chad. And [director] Ryan [Coogler] poured that into the story.”

Feige continued, “The conversations were entirely about, yes, ‘What do we do next?’ And how could the legacy of Chadwick — and what he had done to help Wakanda and the Black Panther become these incredible, aspirational, iconic ideas — continue? That’s what it was all about.”

“Wakanda Forever” premieres in theaters on Nov. 11."

Kevin Feige on Why Marvel Didn’t Recast T’Challa After Chadwick Boseman’s Death: ‘It Was Much Too Soon’

In “Captain America: Civil War,” the “Avengers” movies and, of course, “Black Panther,” Chadwick Boseman brought King T’Challa to life, marking an importan…

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[MickeyMouse10]

But they didn't mind recasting The Hulk and War Machine.

With the introduction of the Multiverse it would have been easier than ever to recast T'Challa.

 

[Phicinfan]

But they didn't mind recasting The Hulk and War Machine.

With the introduction of the Multiverse it would have been easier than ever to recast T'Challa.

I believe the issue is the actor died, and was HUGELY popular. Not the same for Hulk or War Machine

 

[MickeyMouse10]

I believe the issue is the actor died, and was HUGELY popular. Not the same for Hulk or War Machine

I don't see where that matters. Black Panther has been around for almost 60 years and is a beloved character in his own right. It's not fair to cut short the story of his existence.

They didn't stop making Crow movies when Brandon Lee tragically died on the set. Or Harry Potter movies when Richard Harris died (his replacement went onto star in 6 movies).

 

[Jedijax719]

I don't see where that matters. Black Panther has been around for almost 60 years and is a beloved character in his own right. It's not fair to cut short the story of his existence.

They didn't stop making Crow movies when Brandon Lee tragically died on the set. Or Harry Potter movies when Richard Harris died (his replacement went onto star in 6 movies).

None of these are the same. It doesn't take a stretch of imagination to see how entirely different these situations are.

One can, if they want, make real-life connections to the loss of beloved leaders such as MLK, Lincoln, JFK, FDR, the Queen, and others around the world who left a mark and whose loss left a gaping hole. One can look at the idea of making the movie so soon as being callous, but replacing with another actor would and could be seen as being even more callous. The question of "what happens next?" and "can someone else remotely fill that person's shoes?" is emotional, compelling, and real-world.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

I don't see where that matters. Black Panther has been around for almost 60 years and is a beloved character in his own right. It's not fair to cut short the story of his existence.

They didn't stop making Crow movies when Brandon Lee tragically died on the set. Or Harry Potter movies when Richard Harris died (his replacement went onto star in 6 movies).

He didn’t say he’ll never be recast. It’s just too soon. Post-Secret Wars enough time will have gone by that I’m sure it will happen.

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

Namor confirmed as a mutant.

Namor Is ‘A Dream Antagonist’ For Black Panther: Wakanda Forever, Says Ryan Coogler – Exclusive Image

Read more about the Wakanda Forever villain.

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Namor will be played here by Mexican actor Tenoch Huerta, previously seen in The Forever Purge and Tigers Are Not Afraid – with this incarnation of the character inspired by the culture and history of Mesoamerica. “You can take Atlantis from Greek myth, or you can adapt from a real culture,” argues Huerta. Rather than the ruler of Atlantis, on the screen he’s the ruler of Talocan – and he’s drawn to the surface by the ramifications of T’Challa’s decision in Black Panther’s final reel to reveal the truth of Wakanda to the world. “That decision puts Talocan in jeopardy,” Huerta explains. “And Talocan has to take action to protect themselves.” One detail that is carrying over from the comics? According to Huerta, his Namor is indeed a mutant.

 

[Jedijax719]

Did Namor pre-date Aquaman?

@Lucky Rabbit are you suggesting there could be an heir to T'Challa? Or that there will be a variant?

Personally, I feel that a variant takes away some of the humanism and heart that is the Black Panther culture. Even though we have superpowers, magical herbs and vibranium, there is still a "wordly" human story. A multiverse entry could take much of that away.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Namor confirmed as a mutant papi.

FTFY

Did Namor pre-date Aquaman?

In the comics, yes.