Black Panther: Wakanda Forever

[Jedijax719]

I thought the first trailer was a good feast of visuals and audio. Was very nice but told you nothing about the film.

I don't think it looks very good in the second trailer though.

So Shuri becomes an Ironman and a Black Panther in this?

You didn't like that trailer?

 

[Screamface]

You didn't like that trailer?

Not the second one. Did nothing for me. Just generic, nothing all that interesting. The wings on the ankles is goofy AF.

I'll still see it in the theatre though.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Shuri presumably just becomes Black Panther (assuming it isn't Nakia). The person in the Iron Suit is Riri Williams, a.k.a Ironheart. She's a new character in the film.

…doesn’t that Seem a bit too complicated already??

Not the second one. Did nothing for me. Just generic, nothing all that interesting. The wings on the ankles is goofy AF.

I'll still see it in the theatre though.

I’m with you…
First trailer had me thinking: …well maybe?
Second was: oh…so that’s how it’s gonna be?

Marvels problem now is they’re losing their foundation actors…the biggest two - my opinion - and now boseman due to life getting in the way.
Can’t go that way forever or you have a big elaborate fringe mainstream comic book world.

 

[Screamface]

Marvels problem now is they’re losing their foundation actors…the biggest two - my opinion - and now boseman due to life getting in the way.
Can’t go that way forever or you have a big elaborate fringe mainstream comic book world.

Then the ones they still have like Hemsworth is getting disjointed meh films.

Is there no one helming Marvel at the moment? Is it a period of experimenting before setting up a new plan for films?

I also wonder if they're going to over-extend themselves with too much. Where Marvel will move from a "See everything" franchise to just picking and choosing what people see. Which is what is happening with the TV shows.

 

[Californian Elitist]

My friends and I bought our tickets today. Tenoch Huerta looks amazing as Namor. Can’t wait to see Michaela on the big screen. The second trailer was awesome. Can’t wait.

 

[Jedijax719]

…doesn’t that Seem a bit too complicated already??

I’m with you…
First trailer had me thinking: …well maybe?
Second was: oh…so that’s how it’s gonna be?

Marvels problem now is they’re losing their foundation actors…the biggest two - my opinion - and now boseman due to life getting in the way.
Can’t go that way forever or you have a big elaborate fringe mainstream comic book world.

So what's how it's gonna be?

 

[Phicinfan]

…doesn’t that Seem a bit too complicated already??

I’m with you…
First trailer had me thinking: …well maybe?
Second was: oh…so that’s how it’s gonna be?

Marvels problem now is they’re losing their foundation actors…the biggest two - my opinion - and now boseman due to life getting in the way.
Can’t go that way forever or you have a big elaborate fringe mainstream comic book world.

I don't think you can keep going trotting out all the same actors. That also can be a failed process. I am starting to get excited on who the X-men will be brought along, per some reports they will give a fond farewell to the Fox X-men in Avengers secret wars or Kang dynasty. Then introduce the new X-men post that.
I also think you will get many of the current hanging around as Dr. Strange will be still going, Hulk and a few others. They just need to be better developing the new characters in some things

 

[Californian Elitist]

…doesn’t that Seem a bit too complicated already??

What’s too complicated about adding new characters to a franchise?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

What’s too complicated about adding new characters to a franchise?

The more fringe you go on comic books…the less mass appeal they have.
There’s already diminishing returns on this approach.
We shall see.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't think you can keep going trotting out all the same actors. That also can be a failed process. I am starting to get excited on who the X-men will be brought along, per some reports they will give a fond farewell to the Fox X-men in Avengers secret wars or Kang dynasty. Then introduce the new X-men post that.
I also think you will get many of the current hanging around as Dr. Strange will be still going, Hulk and a few others. They just need to be better developing the new characters in some things

Well I do agree with you there.

The xmen are coming along at the right time to infuse some new blood into MCU.

If…big IF…they just roll them out as they were meant to be. Make cyclops the alpha…make storm the dominant leader…make wolverine the animal…scare the crap out of us with Jean grey…use colossus…

Magneto is top 5 baddie of all time…don’t “reinvent” that.

Just don’t do…the Lucasfilm “thing” with this. Stick to the plan.

I still think perhaps the best movie superhero character…save for maybe Heath ledger…is Alan Cummings night crawler in X2…
Something like that would be great again

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

So what's how it's gonna be?

Wasn’t a fan of the second trailer…it looked “silly” to me trying to invoke “spectacle”

The first black panther was very much a spectacle - in my book. It worked. Can’t force it though.

 

[Californian Elitist]

I don't understand why they are putting "Ironheart" in this one. It seems like she doesn't belong, much like Monica Rambeau in "Wandavision". I guess they want to shoehorn their lesser known characters into well established franchises, to get us to know them. Even if it doesn't make sense at all.

Given that Riri is a STEM genius, like Shuri, I would say she fits in just fine.

 

[LSLS]

I don't understand why they are putting "Ironheart" in this one. It seems like she doesn't belong, much like Monica Rambeau in "Wandavision". I guess they want to shoehorn their lesser known characters into well established franchises, to get us to know them. Even if it doesn't make sense at all.

I'm not one to defend Black Panther as I didn't like the first one, but I think it's tough to say you don't understand it without seeing how/why they do. They have done this consistently throughout the MCU, it's all about execution.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Some of the topics brought up in this thread after one teaser and one trailer are interesting, to say the least. Whining about Namor’s race, claiming Tenoch Huerta to not be in shape and having a “dad bod” (W-T-F?), bringing Top Gun into the conversation, claiming that Namor’s feet wings look “goofy,” when that’s literally part of his character design, calling the addition of new characters “complicated,” almost obsessing about how the film is going to do at the box office, etc…

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I don't understand why they are putting "Ironheart" in this one. It seems like she doesn't belong, much like Monica Rambeau in "Wandavision". I guess they want to shoehorn their lesser known characters into well established franchises, to get us to know them. Even if it doesn't make sense at all.

Yep…”danger, will Robinson”

Given that Riri is a STEM genius, like Shuri, I would say she fits in just fine.

Don’t like the “toss em in there!” Trend.

It’s as though Disney doesn’t seem to understand that comic books were always fringe…
They seemed to with the slow “human” development in the original MCU series…now it’s kind of a free for all.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Some of the topics brought up in this thread after one teaser and one trailer are interesting, to say the least. Whining about Namor’s race, claiming Tenoch Huerta to not be in shape and having a “dad bod” (W-T-F?), bringing Top Gun into the conversation, claiming that Namor’s feet wings look “goofy,” when that’s literally part of his character design, calling the addition of new characters “complicated,” almost obsessing about how the film is going to do at the box office, etc…

First time on one of the “movie” threads, huh?

 

[Californian Elitist]

Yep…”danger, will Robinson”

Don’t like the “toss em in there!” Trend.

It’s as though Disney doesn’t seem to understand that comic books were always fringe…
They seemed to with the slow “human” development in the original MCU series…now it’s kind of a free for all.

K.

 

[Californian Elitist]

First time on one of the “movie” threads, huh?

Not at all.

 

[Californian Elitist]

Ironheart easily could have been in "Armor Wars" or if they somehow brought back Ironman.

Meanwhile Monica Rambeau, which makes no sense for Wandavision, should have been introduced in "The Marvels" or another Captain Marvel related thing.

Why don’t you actually wait for the movie to release and you actually see it first? But maybe Tenoch Huerta is too fat for you, so maybe not?

 

[Lucky Rabbit]

Ironheart easily could have been in "Armor Wars" or if they somehow brought back Ironman.

Meanwhile Monica Rambeau, which makes no sense for Wandavision, should have been introduced in "The Marvels" or another Captain Marvel related thing.

Riri probably will be in Armor Wars. That’s why this is just an introduction. She’s going to do more projects. It’s odd to be mad about something we haven’t seen.

Did you watch WandaVision? She was a Sword agent. Sword was the antagonist to Wanda. What isn’t making sense? Using this logic you can’t introduce Black Window in Ironman 2 because she should only be in a spy film.