News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

[lazyboy97o]

Honestly, just give us what was originally promised and it'd be perfect
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If we had gotten these instead of the budget-cut version, it'd be practically perfect and everyone wouldn't be complaining

Except most people would only get to experience a concrete plaza with a concrete ceiling. And it wouldn’t event even have air conditioning. We have what we have specifically because this was a dumb boondoggle that never made any sense financially, programmatically or experimentally.

 

[trainplane3]

Honestly, just give us what was originally promised and it'd be perfect
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If we had gotten these instead of the budget-cut version, it'd be practically perfect and everyone wouldn't be complaining

The table would've been interesting from a distance, then you would realize it's just a flex space on stilts combined with a upcharge area. Think the festival box we have now but smaller and more limited.

The second piece of art was hot garbage from day 1. Just demo everything to have a few small buildings plus a bunch of trees and nothing else with an even worse table building on one side and a replaced quarter of CC East (why even spend the money to do that?) building on the other.

They can't maintain lights (and effects in certain rides) so I have doubts about the tree working in the long-term. Besides, what would it even do aside from change colors and play sounds?

The best concept was the cheaper of the options they passed on for whatever reason that would've plussed the whole core while keeping what they had.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

The best concept was the cheaper of the options they passed on for whatever reason that would've plussed the whole core while keeping what they had.

Which one is that ?

Is it Attachment 4?

 

[lazyboy97o]

Which one is that ?

Is it Attachment 4?

None of the pictures. It was renovating both CommuniCore buildings.

 

[trainplane3]

Which one is that ?

Is it Attachment 4?

All credit to @marni1971 :

Still would've gotten the gardens, the fountain would've been maintained with a small expansion next to it, the CC buildings would've all been occupied, plus hub lighting upgrades. Just a very thorough refresh that would've checked all of the boxes that what we got did while being cheaper and better thought out. No festival stage but looking at what we got, I'd be fine without it.

If they really wanted Moana in the hub they could've dropped the robot restaurant and it still would've been great while giving guests something else to do.

 

[Epcot81Fan]

WDI 1982:

WDI 2024

 

[marni1971]

All credit to @marni1971 :
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Still would've gotten the gardens, the fountain would've been maintained with a small expansion next to it, the CC buildings would've all been occupied, plus hub lighting upgrades. Just a very thorough refresh that would've checked all of the boxes that what we got did while being cheaper and better thought out. No festival stage but looking at what we got, I'd be fine without it.

If they really wanted Moana in the hub they could've dropped the robot restaurant and it still would've been great while giving guests something else to do.

That’s a blast from the past.

But hey. The new lights in the floor do work. Kind of.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

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Yes!!! This one. Yup

 

[Epcot82Guy]

That revised version of the original would have been so much better. And there would have been plenty of room for JoW in World Nature. Let alone what the money saved could have gone to.

 

[trainplane3]

That’s a blast from the past.

But hey. The new lights in the floor do work. Kind of.

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Debut night, 2 hours before the Luminous debut. Issues were already slowly starting to happen:

1 hour after Luminous finished:

2 months later we gained trip hazard status:

Bonus: The area behind the Walt statue were having what looked like communication issues. Colors were messed up in spots but plain white was fine.

They lasted literal hours, if that.

It was something else coming back 2 months later and seeing them deteriorate further. I look forward to going back soonish and seeing how much worse they've become in person. I'm not even mad, just disappointed.

 

[SplashJacket]

Looking for a genuine unbiased response.

I went right at the debut and it was genuinely whimsical, in a similar way of walking through Avatar at night. Very different, but magical.

I haven’t been since December of last year, so how bad is it?

People were complaining shortly after it opened, but it wasn’t an issue at all, imho. How bad has it actually become?

 

[marni1971]

. How bad has it actually become?

The strip lights? Barely any illumination. What little there is is multicoloured and faint.

They’re currently more of a trip hazard now:

 

[tparris]

The strip lights? Barely any illumination. What little there is is multicoloured and faint.

They’re currently more of a trip hazard now:

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I took this a few weeks ago of the lights in the main plaza

And these are the lights near communicore hall, which were actually never turned on to begin with…

 

[Andrew C]

Amateurs in charge of the joint.

 

[Ayla]

I took this a few weeks ago of the lights in the main plazaView attachment 818347
And these are the lights near communicore hall, which were actually never turned on to begin with…View attachment 818348View attachment 818349View attachment 818350View attachment 818351

Dear lord. A perfect display of sloppy incompetence. That's embarrassing.

 

[DreamfinderGuy]

All credit to @marni1971 :
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Still would've gotten the gardens, the fountain would've been maintained with a small expansion next to it, the CC buildings would've all been occupied, plus hub lighting upgrades. Just a very thorough refresh that would've checked all of the boxes that what we got did while being cheaper and better thought out. No festival stage but looking at what we got, I'd be fine without it.

If they really wanted Moana in the hub they could've dropped the robot restaurant and it still would've been great while giving guests something else to do.

The sooner people realize this was the only proposed plan for the spine that wouldn't have been hot garbage, the better. It's an incredible shame that we missed out on it.

 

[Epcot81Fan]

I took this a few weeks ago of the lights in the main plazaView attachment 818347
And these are the lights near communicore hall, which were actually never turned on to begin with…View attachment 818348View attachment 818349View attachment 818350View attachment 818351

The “absolutely remarkable” crowd have gone mysteriously quiet lately.

 

[gerarar]

 

[mysto]

Looks like they used hot butyl (black goo) to glue down the top surfaces of those light strips. No mechanical attachment method whatsoever.

 

[Mr. Sullivan]

l.. because it was designed with a very specific non-forward looking aesthetic... Very current trend VS what they tried to do with the original EPCOT...

But that’s kinda the core of the issue I feel, isn’t it? The future will always get here.

I don’t think they knocked this out of the park really (though I do like a lot of aspects of it), but it’s kinda damned if they do and damned if they don’t. If they design it to look futuristic once more, then it’ll one day once more be outdated and necessitate yet another overhaul.

There’s not really a winning choice on the table. Futurism will always, without fail, eventually become tacky, old, and outdated, no matter how much they do up front to try and outrun it.