EPCOT Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

[Andrew C]

You inspired me - Thanks.
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Its kinda fun to do the impossible...

 

[Epcot82Guy]

The problem I have is the missing symbolism and theme. I'm not against any of the individual design elements, per se. But, they have no point other than to be modern and pseudo-luxury. The design could have easily incorporated a message or focus for each zone - coming together with the Epcot symbol in the center. It could have served as a bridge to the neighborhood beyond it. Instead, it's just "nice".

It's funny that Iger hates the coaster themed to India or something. Because, many, many things designed under his watch are themed to modern California aesthetics and decor. It's poor story telling by those who think they are great at it.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

The problem I have is the missing symbolism and theme.

I love the Giant mural inside Connection's that's another decor that goes with World Showcase.

They decided to leave the the "Future World" theme but funny because Mouse Gear wasn't future themed. An apple like style Creation's is okay to be modern because it's not modern and futuristic even if it's just to create an awesome cool aesthetic unique for Epcot. I don't think you can have a "Present World" and expecting something to look different or from another time or unknown horizon. The two story festival building would of looked what future or 80s? The park isn't tributing it's itself nor it's future world that what was the embodiment of Epcot.

 

[Bocabear]

there is no apostrophe in a plural... Connections... not Connection's...unless you are saying the restaurant posessed something...then it would be Connection's flooring...or World Celebration's atmosphere... get it? I don't know why they don't teach this in school anymore..... Pet peeve....sorry.... continue.....

 

[Incomudro]

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Speaking of barren concrete waste 🗑

Is that a mushroom.. color is hideous

We couldn't get the fountain, wishing tree, holiday light up planter decor for thissss junky wobbly, the pavement color doesn't help either. This here is worse than anything in JOW.

I haven't been there to see it personally, but I like this.
I like most of it except for the glaring lack of a fountain.
I'm not very fond of the football field area with the awnings though.

 

[Bocabear]

I haven't been there to see it personally, but I like this.
I like most of it except for the glaring lack of a fountain.
I'm not very fond of the football field area with the awnings though.

I have....it's not great and the lack of a large fountain or any kind of water is glaring... It is worse than before because with the "Miscellaneous Garden Areas" it feels even more ponderous and pointless... There is no focus to this area... it feels like "People said they wanted trees and some seats, so here!" it feels like Knee-jerk Gardens.... It does not feel like Disney....that is for sure...

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I haven't been there to see it personally, but I like this.
I like most of it except for the glaring lack of a fountain.
I'm not very fond of the football field area with the awnings though.

I haven't been able to see it in person as of yet. I think I wouldn't mind it if it was silver. The whole rusty brown there with Spaceship Earth isn't my cup of tea especially when you have modern Connection's/Creation's next door.

 

[Epcot81Fan]

It’s sad to see people who represent themselves as “Disney fans” rationalize and support terrible and lazy design.

If the parks, especially Epcot, were designed with these pathetically low standards 40 years ago there wouldn’t even be a Disney fan community today.

Truly pathetic and embarrassing.

(And yes, I used “pathetic” twice intentionally)

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

It’s sad to see people who represent themselves as “Disney fans” rationalize and support terrible and lazy design.

If the parks, especially Epcot, were designed with these pathetically low standards 40 years ago there wouldn’t even be a Disney fan community today.

Truly pathetic and embarrassing.

(And yes, I used “pathetic” twice intentionally)

Idk I just thought it was pretty. Granted last time I was at epcot I was 7, but at least from the monorail and from photos, it looks fine to me. Just, for the love of god, get us some sort of water feature

 

[GladToBeHear]

While I thought the Tomorrowland at Shanghai Disney was interesting for about a minute, it in person feels even more like a corporate business park than the new EPCOT central core... Too cold, not a drop of whimsy or fun anywhere to be seen...it literally looks like a very well designed office park or college campus... but it is attractive...but you do not feel like it is a theme park... I guess maybe you can say there is more cohesion to the land...the front half of EPCOT currently just feels like a lot of unrelated parts with no focus....

All good points. And I haven't seen T@SD in person so you'd know better than me. I do think it can be a challenge to pull off whimsy with futuristic. Maybe through the use of kinetics? A stream running through the space with fountains, rocks, etc.? Futuristic windmills? Robots tending to the grass, watering flowers, feeding fish in the pond?

 

[Bocabear]

I think there are lots of ways to make it a more fun environment YES! a moving waterway through the space... A large central show fountain, a series of beautifully designed water features...A poorly designed Flex Space building, dry and oddly styled rust gardens and a complete lack of any sort of kinetics is definitely how you don't do it...it currently looks completely joyless.

 

[TheCoasterNerd]

I think there are lots of ways to make it a more fun environment YES! a moving waterway through the space... A large central show fountain, a series of beautifully designed water features...A poorly designed Flex Space building, dry and oddly styled rust gardens and a complete lack of any sort of kinetics is definitely how you don't do it...it currently looks completely joyless.

Honestly, just give us what was originally promised and it'd be perfect

If we had gotten these instead of the budget-cut version, it'd be practically perfect and everyone wouldn't be complaining

 

[Disstevefan1]

Honestly, just give us what was originally promised and it'd be perfect
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If we had gotten these instead of the budget-cut version, it'd be practically perfect and everyone wouldn't be complaining

Agreed!

At the very minimum, we should have gotten a fountain but instead we got that ugly planter and broken lights in the cement. What an absolute failure!!

To make it worse, TWDC calls what was done in EPCOT a "success" so we are stuck with it for a couple of decades a least.

 

[Andrew C]

TWDC calls what was done in EPCOT a "success" so we are stuck with it for a couple of decades a least.

Internally, they must know? Right?

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Honestly, just give us what was originally promised and it'd be perfect
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If we had gotten these instead of the budget-cut version, it'd be practically perfect and everyone wouldn't be complaining

"It's a shame because these looked SO exciting to just* run around "

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

I think there are lots of ways to make it a more fun environment YES! a moving waterway through the space... A large central show fountain, a series of beautifully designed water features...A poorly designed Flex Space building, dry and oddly styled rust gardens and a complete lack of any sort of kinetics is definitely how you don't do it...it currently looks completely joyless.

Of course! Absolutely, it's all under construction 🏗 as of right now*

To make it worse, TWDC calls what was done in EPCOT a "success" so we are stuck with it for a couple of decades a least.

That's just pun for the moment because no other theme park there in Orlando has what the previous concept art offers for now* so it's the only time your able to ever publicize as successful.

 

[Disstevefan1]

Internally, they must know? Right?

Like in all companies, you are allowed to think things in your mind but must never voice an opinion that goes against the corporate hive mind.

 

[Joesixtoe]

Fixing the lights in the ground and in the greenery would really help a lot, especially with the new communiCore hall. When things show up broken, it creates a lack of care to the space. You automatically get drawn to that, rather than the other aspects you should be drawn to. I'd rather the lights in the ground be off and the ones in the greenery removed, cause then your not noticing the negative. Just like the lights at Grand Flo, main street, beach, Yacht and boardwalk, they are very important to keep up cause it creates a sense of cleanliness, care and of having a good working operating system going.

 

[Chef idea Mickey`=]

Who is the person who dumped the fountain idea. Do they really think gearing away from a any water feature puts their project unique from Epic Universe Celestial Park!

 

[lazyboy97o]

Honestly, just give us what was originally promised and it'd be perfect
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If we had gotten these instead of the budget-cut version, it'd be practically perfect and everyone wouldn't be complaining

Except most people would only get to experience a concrete plaza with a concrete ceiling. And it wouldn’t event even have air conditioning. We have what we have specifically because this was a dumb boondoggle that never made any sense financially, programmatically or experimentally.