News Big changes coming to EPCOT's Future World?

Incomudro

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But that’s kinda the core of the issue I feel, isn’t it? The future will always get here.

I don’t think they knocked this out of the park really (though I do like a lot of aspects of it), but it’s kinda damned if they do and damned if they don’t. If they design it to look futuristic once more, then it’ll one day once more be outdated and necessitate yet another overhaul.

There’s not really a winning choice on the table. Futurism will always, without fail, eventually become tacky, old, and outdated, no matter how much they do up front to try and outrun it.
I agree.
We no longer live in a time when there is a sort of agreed upon idea of what "the future" will look like.
In the past, places like Tommorowland and Epcot sought to portray that.
As I've said, I like a lot of what they did with Epcot - certainly prefer some of it to what had been there the past twenty years.
Where they failed though is a wow factor, and that should have come from a stunning water feature.
That in place of that planter - and in conjunction with the lights (had they worked for more than one night) would have been very impressive.
 

Mr. Sullivan

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I agree.
We no longer live in a time when there is a sort of agreed upon idea of what "the future" will look like.
In the past, places like Tommorowland and Epcot sought to portray that.
As I've said, I like a lot of what they did with Epcot - certainly prefer some of it to what had been there the past twenty years.
Where they failed though is a wow factor, and that should have come from a stunning water feature.
That in place of that planter - and in conjunction with the lights (had they worked for more than one night) would have been very impressive.
100%. A gorgeous fountain would be perfect.
 

networkpro

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
Yes
There are several exposed areas of the central planter lights today, it seems they’re replacing the white panels on top or something, as several of them are missing. They’re continuing to do absolutely nothing about the HORRIBLE buildup and overgrowth of mold and mildew underneath though.

That's what occurs when you take people only versed in theory and white room builds and attempt to apply that to the real world. Imagineering use to have people who lived in the real practical world design everything, now its theorists and folks that never touch grass.
 

James Alucobond

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That's what occurs when you take people only versed in theory and white room builds and attempt to apply that to the real world. Imagineering use to have people who lived in the real practical world design everything, now its theorists and folks that never touch grass.
There have been many mistakes of the sort past and present. Look what happened to Rocket Rods in DL or the original Tomorrowland waterfall towers. The problem here is the rapidity of the failure, the apparent slowness with which they're dealing with the problem, and the fact that it's especially problematic to simply ignore because of the trip hazard.
 

KDM31091

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I really hate the noise pollution from the various concerts, Encanto show, etc. It just makes the area feel cheap and tacky, like something I could find at my neighborhood park or something. The entire front half of Epcot, from the gardens to Communicore Hall to the stage blasting music ruining the vibes, is an absolute disaster and failure. It looks slightly better at night, but that's about all that's going for it. 5 years and they cannot even provide functional lighting?

It's truly, truly embarrassing. I would rather they have left it as it was even with a half boarded up Innoventions.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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I agree.
We no longer live in a time when there is a sort of agreed upon idea of what "the future" will look like.
In the past, places like Tommorowland and Epcot sought to portray that.
As I've said, I like a lot of what they did with Epcot - certainly prefer some of it to what had been there the past twenty years.
Where they failed though is a wow factor, and that should have come from a stunning water feature.
That in place of that planter - and in conjunction with the lights (had they worked for more than one night) would have been very impressive.
Absolutely, the wow factor! They could've just kept the lights on the floor that everyone loved before, it's sparkling doesn't mean it's for just future it went perfect with Spaceship Earth's kinetic energy and they didn't break unlike anything from scratch lol.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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If they design it to look futuristic once more, then it’ll one day once more be outdated and necessitate yet another overhaul.
They don't need to look design to look futuristic, take a look over at Epic Universe, it's not futuristic but unique shaping that identity of that new park! Epcot just needs it's own aesthetics, the planter and rusty umbrellas ain't it Epcot is not the High Museum of Art in Atlanta nor is it a city public park. Epcot is Epcot. Give it unique but aww flooring, decor, aesthetics unlike you would find any place that's free to visit!
Didn't we come to Epcot for it's it's own place!
 

Epcot81Fan

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I really hate the noise pollution from the various concerts, Encanto show, etc. It just makes the area feel cheap and tacky, like something I could find at my neighborhood park or something. The entire front half of Epcot, from the gardens to Communicore Hall to the stage blasting music ruining the vibes, is an absolute disaster and failure. It looks slightly better at night, but that's about all that's going for it. 5 years and they cannot even provide functional lighting?

It's truly, truly embarrassing. I would rather they have left it as it was even with a half boarded up Innoventions.
Hey, but at least you have the Wonders of Life and Imagination pavilions to enjoy!

#remodeldone
 

aladdin2007

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Amateurs in charge of the joint.
This, and must be the same ones who decided to rip out the authentic tile in Morocco for a box of leftover tiles from a bathroom stall in a mall in 1985....yeah Im going to continue calling them out on these rotten decisions until things are done right or at least better. Why is this park getting the worst treatment.
 

Epcot81Fan

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It’s actually quite simple - they believe theme park guests are low-rent idiots who won’t notice nor care about the difference.

And the vocal defenders of this junk on this very site makes me believe they may be right.
 

Jayspency

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In the Parks
No
It’s actually quite simple - they believe theme park guests are low-rent idiots who won’t notice nor care about the difference.

And the vocal defenders of this junk on this very site makes me believe they may be right.
There are some people who simply go to Disney to see the characters and not much else. Some don't care all too much about the thematic integrity and/or quality of the parks as much as seeing their favorite characters come to life. That's perfectly ok, but I worry that Disney is only trying to market towards them specifically and not to the other types of guests that visit their parks everyday, and expect a more premium experience. In other words, relying too much on their brand.
 

Chef idea Mickey`=

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It’s actually quite simple - they believe theme park guests are low-rent idiots who won’t notice nor care about the difference.
Because you are just a Fwend. Hey Fwend stay here by the wall we need to make sure leave no empty space keep the line moving, get your autograph books ready.

Skyliner: Where are you going Fwend?

Parks: Find your way yourself 😂
 

UNCgolf

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I really hate the noise pollution from the various concerts, Encanto show, etc. It just makes the area feel cheap and tacky, like something I could find at my neighborhood park or something. The entire front half of Epcot, from the gardens to Communicore Hall to the stage blasting music ruining the vibes, is an absolute disaster and failure. It looks slightly better at night, but that's about all that's going for it. 5 years and they cannot even provide functional lighting?

It's truly, truly embarrassing. I would rather they have left it as it was even with a half boarded up Innoventions.

I haven't been there since it opened, but I wondered about this and commented on it somewhere (probably earlier in this thread).

I was concerned about noise pollution from the singalong etc. depending on how far it carried.
 

Bocabear

Well-Known Member
I agree.
We no longer live in a time when there is a sort of agreed upon idea of what "the future" will look like.
In the past, places like Tommorowland and Epcot sought to portray that.
As I've said, I like a lot of what they did with Epcot - certainly prefer some of it to what had been there the past twenty years.
Where they failed though is a wow factor, and that should have come from a stunning water feature.
That in place of that planter - and in conjunction with the lights (had they worked for more than one night) would have been very impressive.
Not that the one water feature would have solved the problem, but there was no focus to the current design...no wow moment... No outrageous design decisions creating something visually new and unique. To say the future will always get here means we should just all be living in average suburbia because at some point everything will be outdated...that's a terrible stance. so basically why bother?
That is kind of what this whole EPCOT reimagining looks like... "here are some trees and we can't be bothered any further...oh and a flex space for party rentals and a meet and greet...Enjoy the new Epcot.
 

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