OSUPhantom
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Moving BBT and Moana at the same time would be more efficient since you can likely work both sites from a single construction/laydown set up. Not saying it’ll happen but there’s reason to advance both at the same time.
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𝕴𝖒𝖆𝖌𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖊𝖗97
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So a mountain...in which you get splashed??
PREMiERdrum
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The AL expansion pad is nearly shovel-ready.
IF things move forward as currently envisioned, I'd expect Moana in AL and Tropical Americas at AK on the fastest timetable while BBTM infrastructure kicks off, then BBTM pase 1 and either DHS *or* AK E-ticket next, and then BBTM phase 2 if that ever happens.
Again, as currently envisioned. Subject to change without notice. Your milage may vary. If you experience "magic" lasting more than four hours, call you doctor.
𝕴𝖒𝖆𝖌𝖎𝖓𝖊𝖊𝖗97
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Wait, sorry, I'm confused. Which AK E-Ticket are we talking about here? Avatar 2nd attraction? Lion King dark ride? One of the tropical things?
OSUPhantom
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That would make sense. They’d still get some efficiencies from doing the early work for BBT as they advance Moana.
PREMiERdrum
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There is some interest in adding the Lion King E-ticket from DLP *or* the Avatar "experience" coming to DL at AK as an expansion past Tropical Americas. I'm not convinced they'll find enough coins in the sofa, but since it's what they're laying out it should be considered as construction timelines are drafted.
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Disnutz311
Disney World Purist
Since we are playing with crayons a little bit...
Red is railroad track. Build new track first and then connect for least down time
Green is new plot of land for expansion
Tom Sawyer island shaved down to make room room for Riverboat. No more foot traffic on Island. New sets on island.
Mauve is guest foot path
Orange is new HM Queue
Red is railroad track. Build new track first and then connect for least down time
Green is new plot of land for expansion
Tom Sawyer island shaved down to make room room for Riverboat. No more foot traffic on Island. New sets on island.
Mauve is guest foot path
Orange is new HM Queue
castlecake2.0
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I don’t think you’ll ever see that operation again after what happened in 2009
James Alucobond
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I think I'd prefer seeing an arrangement like this, with the Frontierland extension being connected to Dark Kingdom Z1 via drawbridge (of marigolds?) and zones 1 and 2 having either an underpass or overpass between them where the train is. Haunted Mansion queue would obviously have to be reconfigured. I think this also retains pretty much all structures on TSI, and a secondary Liberty Belle dock in zone 2 could be cool.
Advisable Joseph
Active Member
Is that squeezed in between the mountain and the canal, or is that west of the canal?
The former looks like just enough space for a walkway.
Remember that image with Imagineering testing out a pre-vis ride thru of a decidedly Coco-based attraction a few years ago? Well, what if, hypothetically we were getting that. And instead of the costly and massive footprint of a Soarin 2.0 Alebrijes Flight E ticket we would get a Soarin-esque ride sequence combined with classic darkride movements within a souped up, projection-heavy C-ticket dark ride. Could the BBT Coco attraction be a variation of the "black box" flex ride attraction concept?
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Brer Oswald
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That would actually be popular, so there’s no chance they do it.
TrainsOfDisney
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They’ve got 3 movies worth of dialogue with him to pull from.
First, Return of Jafar isn’t Robin, it’s Genie Homer. Second, his will prevents Disney from using unused voice footage I think for 20 years post death, so you get stuck with only exact movie lines.
mattpeto
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This is a quite the rabbit hole but in Once Upon a Studio...
The piece of audio used for Williams came from one of the actor's many unused outtakes that he recorded years ago for Aladdin. Abraham sifted through 16 hours of archived recordings to pick the perfect soundbite. "We got the approval of the Robin Williams estate very, very early on," he says. "We told them what we wanted to do and they were like, 'Yep, this is great.' Using original dialogue of his was very important to us."
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How Disney brought back Robin Williams' Genie for 'Once Upon a Studio'
The filmmakers behind 'Once Upon a Studio' and Disney's original Genie animator reveal why that Robin Williams moment is even more meaningful than you think.
TrainsOfDisney
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Still plenty to use for an attraction though.
I think Coco is a great movie and Moana was ok. But Aladdin is such a no brainer! Get over yourself Bob! Use the more popular IP’s!!!
Advisable Joseph
Active Member
Finally tracked down the discussion you referenced:
Coco ride? (Image on new Imagineering Site)
(photo from https://sites.disney.com/waltdisneyimagineering/our-process/) That image on the screen shows a very Dia De Los Muertos style skull. Could this be for a Coco ride? Is this the black box ride? What do you guys think of it? Here's a photo from Coco with the same skull. Another photo...
Now have to find where @marni1971 talked about a "black box."
The Leader of the Club
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Moana has consistently been one of the most streamed movies. It’s incredibly popular with kids (Disney’s target market) and parents alike.
Aladdin is popular and I’d love to see an attraction in set that world, but let’s not pretend that Moana is any less deserving.
TrainsOfDisney
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Moana has not stood the test of time that Alladin has. It certainly could. Disney needs to care about the popularity of an IP just as much as who the CEO was when the IP was made.
A quality Moana attraction could be crazy fun though!