News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

DisneyDodo

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FWIW. I heard Moana boat, Racers and a C or D- ticket Coco attraction. But everyone else is saying it'll be Flight of the Alebrijes so...
WDI definitely did design a flying-theater Coco attraction (which would presumably be classified as an E-ticket). Though I’m personally skeptical that it will ultimately be included in BBTM phase 1, given that they appear to have moved and adapted some of the Coco area to the plans for DAK (along with Encanto), which wouldn’t make sense IMO if they were still planning that ride for MK. I would assume any talk of a C-ticket Coco attraction would refer to the carousel pictured in the TA concept art (as well as the obsolete BBTM artwork)
 

DisneyDodo

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The expansion plot is here, assuming that's the furthest north they intend to go with it. Prior expansion plans for this land back in the late 90s and early 2000s included a new walkway that went between POTC and Jungle Cruise-

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However, it's likely that the parade itself would be halted temporarily at some point during construction due to the crossing roads needing to be reworked. It needs to go through Caribbean Way to get back to Main Street. And that road would end up being impacted in some way. Unless they build some sort of temporary bypass.
if Caribbean Way is closed, they could bring the floats back up through the parade route after the park closes as a temporary measure. Or even run the parade a second time in the opposite direction during park hours.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Parade storage moves to fantasyland?
Unless they're intending to expand into the space where those buildings are located, there's no reason to move the floats behind Fantasyland. There also aren't any roads back there that connect to any other parts of the park, they would have to either build a new road or use the original Floridian Way to get there. Which I don't see happening unless they finally close off that road to guests completely and force everyone to use the Floridian PL bypass they built a few years back.

But regardless, that still doesn't help whatsoever with the problem of getting the floats back to Main Street if Caribbean Way is being impacted. The only road that connects to Main Street on the west side is Caribbean Way. They'd need to build a bypass road back there to completely avoid shutting down the parade for any extended length of time. Rough example-

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if Caribbean Way is closed, they could bring the floats back up through the parade route after the park closes as a temporary measure. Or even run the parade a second time in the opposite direction during park hours.
That might work. Depending on how much space they have back behind Main Street to keep floats back there for extended periods of time.

Though to be honest, I wouldn't put it past Disney to use the opportunity as an excuse to not run major day or night parades for several years. As I mentioned above, they ran the train backwards for several years in the late 80s to early 90s while building the new Frontierland station at the time. And yet kept it closed for several years while Tron was being constructed despite being able to keep it running the other direction (with all stations open as well).
 

flyerjab

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With regard to Iger and his “all IP all the time” mantra, this is where creativity gets stifled. And for the record, I don’t necessarily mind IP inclusion if done well (also, I am not quite as much of a stickler as some on here 😉). In this case though, you can see how far they have to reach to find IPs that can somehow be related to a desert setting. This is a classic situation where original park ideas would help tremendously. If the Imagineers would be allowed to spread their wings and freely create original attractions and placemaking ideas, there would be no issues forcing BTM along side Cars and Woody.
 
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ChewbaccaYourMum

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I can't remember if anyone has brought this up before, and I hate to be the one to say this, but let's say Moana 2 bombs horrifically in theaters and is actually a really bad movie lol.... Even with the HUGE popularity of the original movie and fanbase it has, does anyone think their might be a chance Disney panics and scraps the Moana ride and then eventually the whole Adventureland expansion because they were so strong on this IP going there and don't want to think of something else? ...or do the plans for this seem pretty confident to go forward from the insiders hearing things and the sequel has nothing to do with it?
 

JohnD

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I can't remember if anyone has brought this up before, and I hate to be the one to say this, but let's say Moana 2 bombs horrifically in theaters and is actually a really bad movie lol.... Even with the HUGE popularity of the original movie and fanbase it has, does anyone think their might be a chance Disney panics and scraps the Moana ride and then eventually the whole Adventureland expansion because they were so strong on this IP going there and don't want to think of something else? ...or do the plans for this seem pretty confident to go forward from the insiders hearing things and the sequel has nothing to do with it?
I doubt it. It's all about the original IP. There was a Frozen 2 which wasn't as good as the first and yet she's still getting a whole World of Frozen in "Disney Adventure Park" (TM).
 

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I can't remember if anyone has brought this up before, and I hate to be the one to say this, but let's say Moana 2 bombs horrifically in theaters and is actually a really bad movie lol.... Even with the HUGE popularity of the original movie and fanbase it has, does anyone think their might be a chance Disney panics and scraps the Moana ride and then eventually the whole Adventureland expansion because they were so strong on this IP going there and don't want to think of something else? ...or do the plans for this seem pretty confident to go forward from the insiders hearing things and the sequel has nothing to do with it?
Yes and in its place will be a glorious Cave of Wonders attraction themed to Aladdin.
 

celluloid

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I can't remember if anyone has brought this up before, and I hate to be the one to say this, but let's say Moana 2 bombs horrifically in theaters and is actually a really bad movie lol.... Even with the HUGE popularity of the original movie and fanbase it has, does anyone think their might be a chance Disney panics and scraps the Moana ride and then eventually the whole Adventureland expansion because they were so strong on this IP going there and don't want to think of something else? ...or do the plans for this seem pretty confident to go forward from the insiders hearing things and the sequel has nothing to do with it?

Nah. Moana is still as big as the other options like Encanto or Indiana Jones (arguably more bankable)
 

ChewbaccaYourMum

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Nah. Moana is still as big as the other options like Encanto or Indiana Jones (arguably more bankable)
Yeah that's what I'm thinking. I'm just wondering if any of the insiders have heard that being discussed within WDI even. Maybe they're all just confident Moana 2 is actually good and they're not worried at all!
 

Squishy

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The expansion plot is here, assuming that's the furthest north they intend to go with it. Prior expansion plans for this land back in the late 90s and early 2000s included a new walkway that went between POTC and Jungle Cruise-

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However, it's likely that the parade itself would be halted temporarily at some point during construction due to the crossing roads needing to be reworked. It needs to go through Caribbean Way to get back to Main Street. And that road would end up being impacted in some way. Unless they build some sort of temporary bypass.
They could just go from Frontierland to MS at 12 and return back from MS to Frontierland at 3 similar to how Disneyland does it.
 

discos

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They could just go from Frontierland to MS at 12 and return back from MS to Frontierland at 3 similar to how Disneyland does it.
The only issue I see is that for those couple hours which is usually prone to rain, the floats wouldn't have any sort of protection but who's to say Disney couldn't build a temporary tent back there?
 

lazyboy97o

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if Caribbean Way is closed, they could bring the floats back up through the parade route after the park closes as a temporary measure. Or even run the parade a second time in the opposite direction during park hours.
Caribbean Way would just be rerouted to go around the expansion as whatever is built will need service and emergency vehicle access.
 

Squishy

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The only issue I see is that for those couple hours which is usually prone to rain, the floats wouldn't have any sort of protection but who's to say Disney couldn't build a temporary tent back there?
The floats already sit in the rain if the parade starts staging they just leave it out, often during the summer you can the floats wet if it stopped raining around parade time.
 

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