News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[James Alucobond]

Sorry, but I have heard of Coco appearing in AK via the carousel, and from a legitimate source.

Can't fully guarantee that's the current state of things, but it's not based on nothing.

We have a source from earlier this week at a WDI presser....

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Then came presentations by portfolio executives from Florida who provided new details about the plans for Tropical Americas in Animal Kingdom and Beyond Big Thunder at Magic Kingdom. This was the meatiest portion of the presentation, with new substantive details about the Dino-Rama replacement featuring Indiana Jones, Encanto, and Coco plus brand-new concept art for the area.​

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"I wish I could be here every day," said Disney CEO Bob Iger to kick off an Imagineering presentation I attended. He was joined at the front of the small conference room by Parks Chairman

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But this is the BBTM thread. I posted that in the DAK Expansion thread...

News - 'Encanto' and 'Indiana Jones'-themed experiences at Animal Kingdom

Okay more important: What kind of food do you serve at an archaeological dig-themed restaurant across from the Indiana Jones Adventure? Ribs.

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Totally fair! As I said, I was never saying it was impossible, just that, up until this point, it seemed people were speculating from nondescript artwork and a YouTube video or two that mentioned it without sourcing it at all. If there are genuine rumblings about it, I'm actually quite happy to stop feeling the need to say anything to the contrary.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Totally fair! As I said, I was never saying it was impossible, just that, up until this point, it seemed people were speculating from nondescript artwork and a YouTube video or two that mentioned it without sourcing it at all. If there are genuine rumblings about it, I'm actually quite happy to stop feeling the need to say anything to the contrary.

Now you jinxed it!!

Disney will surely now not make it Coco themed because we're now expecting it!!!

 

[monothingie]

WDW I believe will always want MK to be the crown jewel of parks. They don't want, nor do i believe should they, want to try to have AK/EPCOTT/HS be brought up to the same level of MK.

They want parks that will command premiums for G+, ILL, After Hours, and assorted upcharge add ons.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Maybe Coco will be getting themed toilets to compete with Tangled

 

[monothingie]

Maybe Coco will be getting themed toilets to compete with Tangled

"Hot Coco" Desert and Coffee shop?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I see this come up in other threads as speculation, but I don't see Liberty Square going away anytime soon.

While I'm sure there are some within Disney who view it as problematic, at this point the 1790s theme is mostly just set dressing for restaurants. The land only has two gift shops left, and they're basically the Halloween and Christmas stores. Haunted Mansion is one of the park's most popular rides, the Riverboat isn't really integral to the theme and while Hall of Presidents is an obvious target, I really don't see Disney wanting to start the kind of backlash they'd get for closing it or The American Adventure.

It being sandwiched between three other lands means it's also difficult to expand, and what would really be gained by spending the money to redecorate? Disney went to a lot of trouble to put The Liberty Tree where it is now, they're not going to try and move it again.

 

[Phicinfan]

Question, just to clear up some things. The proposed Moana ride in Adventure land - is that targeted for the expansion pad near Pirates? So this will finally kill the Fire Mountain rumors of possibly going there?

 

[monothingie]

While I'm sure there are some within Disney who view it as problematic, at this point the 1790s theme is mostly just set dressing for restaurants. The land only has two gift shops left, and they're basically the Halloween and Christmas stores. Haunted Mansion is one of the park's most popular rides, the Riverboat isn't really integral to the theme and while Hall of Presidents is an obvious target, I really don't see Disney wanting to start the kind of backlash they'd get for closing it or The American Adventure.

Yup total minefield. Disney can't do anything there without being screwed over. Wall it off and build a DVC lounge so that everyone will be united in hating it.

 

[Captain Barbossa]

Nah. I visited 3 times whilst it was down and it really didn't impact anything. Anything. Whoopdie doo, I didn't get a pic of it at the main Street station.

Actually yah chief. But hey if it didn’t impact your experience at MK, congrats.

 

[UNCgolf]

This thinking boggles my mind. If you have valuable and popular IP, why would you think you need to concentrate it in only one park/area? Why would you not say, we have 2 great ideas for rides, lets expand our offering at more than 1 park, so there is a positive gain and hopefully driving more traffic to both parks? If you have great IP, why wouldn't you want to spread it to more than one park, so that if you have families who are true fans of that IP, they now make it a priority to go to both parks on their next trip, or at least pay for park hoppers, as opposed to saying, well they just put the new things we love to see in one park, we can skip another park this year and just go see the stuff.

I think you missed his point.

It wasn't that they shouldn't ever put the same IP in multiple parks (although that is a bit silly, considering how much IP they have and how much of it is unused) -- it's that it doesn't make much sense to build two attractions based on the exact same conceit from the same IP at the same time.

Imagine they built Flight of Passage at Pandora while also building a banshee spinner at DHS at roughly the same time. It would make a lot more sense to use a different IP for the spinner.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Imagine if they built a Nemo ride at Epcot at the same time as they were making a Nemo show at DAK. Imagine they write new songs for the show and include one in the ride. And then imagine the only complaint is, “I wish the ride was an E-ticket.”

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

Imagine if they built a Nemo ride at Epcot at the same time as they were making a Nemo show at DAK. Imagine they write new songs for the show and include one in the ride. And then imagine the only complaint is, “I wish the ride was an E-ticket.”

I still think it's weird to build two Coco-towns at the same time in two different parks. Imagine the D23 pitch: "Enter new lands in Animal Kingdom and Magic Kingdom, both themed to Coco, both opening in 2029!" It's just a little too much Coco in my opinion.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I still think it's weird to build two Coco-towns at the same time in two different parks. Imagine the D23 pitch: "Enter new lands in Animal Kingdom and Magic Kingdom, both themed to Coco, both opening in 2029!" It's just a little too much Coco in my opinion.

They wouldn’t announce it like that.

 

[The Leader of the Club]

I still think it's weird to build two Coco-towns at the same time in two different parks. Imagine the D23 pitch: "Enter new lands in Animal Kingdom and Magic Kingdom, both themed to Coco, both opening in 2029!" It's just a little too much Coco in my opinion.

What if MK’s Coco Land is the Land of the Dead while DAK’s Coco area is the land of the living?

 

[HauntedPirate]

They wouldn’t announce it like that.

"We have a sophisticated approach to analyzing the needs of all of our businesses and strategically deploying capital, and based on survey data multiple Coco experiences across our world-class theme parks is what our guests want."

 

[James Alucobond]

What if MK’s Coco Land is the Land of the Dead while DAK’s Coco area is the land of the living?

Animal Kingdom’s is a tropical American village that happens to contain Indiana Jones, Encanto, and Coco attractions. It is not a “Cocoland” or even a “Coco area”.

 

[Disgruntled Walt]

They wouldn’t announce it like that.

I know they wouldn't announce it like that, but that would be the reality of what they're doing. It just seems like a whole lot of investment in an IP that will be over 12 years old by the time it opens (realistically). Is the Coco-love that strong in the GP?

 

[ToTBellHop]

I know they wouldn't announce it like that, but that would be the reality of what they're doing. It just seems like a whole lot of investment in an IP that will be over 12 years old by the time it opens (realistically). Is the Coco-love that strong in the GP?

Apparently.

The carousel fits.

And at MK, a Mexico-themed Frontierland is safer than a cowboys and Indians land. Plus, I’d love good Mexican food in the park…

 

[GalacticZero]

I may have missed it, but why are they not putting Coco in the most obvious place, Three Caballeros?

 

[Greg from Philly]

I don't understand, both expansion stories include Encanto. I really must be the only one that thinks that movie sucked and in no way deserves it's own land. Maybe a puppet show or Encanto themed snack stand but not a whole land. Coco is not only a 10xs better movie but is more thematically sound for that area.