News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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uncle jimmy said:
What if instead of Encanto... Cars land above/next to BTMR (the mountains of both would blend together) and then next to that CoCo area and then Villians area (connecting to HM and then NFL).
Put Encanto in DAK.
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Don’t laugh . . . Cars Land was pitched for Tokyo Disneyland to replace at least part of their River.

They said no, obviously.
 
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James Alucobond

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MagicHappens1971 said:
I don’t think Disney is going to replicate it now, if they were going to do it I feel like they would’ve done it already.
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Eh, they’ve replicated a lot lately, and honestly, I think it makes a good deal of sense to replace Animation Courtyard with it even if I’d rather have something original there. Animation Courtyard > Carsland, Racing Academy > Muppets 3D, Rockin’ Rollercoaster > Muppets Mayhem, Muppets 3D > additional classic Star Wars attraction, and another ride in Galaxy’s Edge would put that park in a really decent and far more organized place.
 
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J4546

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If they tear down animation courtyard and all backstage buildings and build an expansion Id want a ToonTown, with MMRR relocated and redo that back into the Great Movie ride using its trackless tech. Retheme RnRC to something with PowerLine from GoofyMovie and redo entrance que to face new toontown, cover the RnRC building with hills and a big forced perspective arena/stadium repping the powerline concert space. Then on the residential side give it a donald duck themed water ride on par with Navi River/mini Splash and a few really small spinner/parachute drop style rides for small kids. Also the houses and play areas of course. That would be a really great well rounded ToonTown with 5 rides imo
 
MagicHappens1971

MagicHappens1971

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J4546 said:
If they tear down animation courtyard and all backstage buildings and build an expansion Id want a ToonTown, with MMRR relocated and redo that back into the Great Movie ride using its trackless tech. Retheme RnRC to something with PowerLine from GoofyMovie and redo entrance que to face new toontown, cover the RnRC building with hills and a big forced perspective arena/stadium repping the powerline concert space. Then on the residential side give it a donald duck themed water ride on par with Navi River/mini Splash and a few really small spinner/parachute drop style rides for small kids. Also the houses and play areas of course. That would be a really great well rounded ToonTown with 5 rides imo
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This is a great armchair Imagineering thought, but none of this is ever happening. Not saying they won’t expand/redo Animation Courtyard but moving MMRR and bringing back GMR is not happening, amongst some of the other ambitious ideas here.
 
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Touchdown

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BTMRR is in the SW USA, which is right next to and remarkable similar in climate to Santa Celia Mexico meaning we only need a time transition (easy) moving further south in Mexico you get tropical rainforests just like the one Encanto is set in, again easy transition. The only hard transition is between Encanto and Villains Land.
 
Disgruntled Walt

Disgruntled Walt

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James Alucobond said:
Racing Academy > Muppets 3D, Rockin’ Rollercoaster > Muppets Mayhem, Muppets 3D > additional classic Star Wars attraction, and another ride in Galaxy’s Edge would put that park in a really decent and far more organized place.
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I like this. I suggested this in another thread. Cars Land I'm not necessarily sold on going there, but it does beat nothing. I don't think I see them adding another Test Track-style ride so close to Test Track.
 
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scottieRoss

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Bocabear said:
I liked the overall idea of the Villains Land proposal...things that made me wrinkle my nose a bit were the mentions of "Devil" "Hell" and "Evil"...there are other words that might be more clever and not have quite the serious sounding overtones.... "Beastly" "Grim" "Macabre"...words like that sound better with the Disney brand. Any attraction with "Hell" in the title would never work. "Escape from DeVil Manor" would work... see what I am saying... tone is right, ideas are right but the verbiage needs to be softened...a little more friendly...but not too much, and evil should always be tongue in cheek.... not serious... I like the VooDoo Lounge in particular...and the integration of restaurants and IP. the alternate riverboat in the Dismal Swamp is a great counterpoint to the normal Magic Kingdom...
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In the movies (animated and live action) Cruella lives in Hell Hall.
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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Bocabear said:
I liked the overall idea of the Villains Land proposal...things that made me wrinkle my nose a bit were the mentions of "Devil" "Hell" and "Evil"...there are other words that might be more clever and not have quite the serious sounding overtones.... "Beastly" "Grim" "Macabre"...words like that sound better with the Disney brand. Any attraction with "Hell" in the title would never work. "Escape from DeVil Manor" would work... see what I am saying... tone is right, ideas are right but the verbiage needs to be softened...a little more friendly...but not too much, and evil should always be tongue in cheek.... not serious... I like the VooDoo Lounge in particular...and the integration of restaurants and IP. the alternate riverboat in the Dismal Swamp is a great counterpoint to the normal Magic Kingdom...
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So you get to go to Florida while in Florida?
 
Kamikaze

Kamikaze

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Bocabear said:
Actually the Great Dismal Swamp is in Virginia and North Carolina...but yeah, a lot of Florida is swamp...and some parts quite Dismal...I am a Florida resident...so I know...lol
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If I was going to describe anything as the 'Great Dismal Swamp', it would be Ronda's Florida.
 
BlakeW39

BlakeW39

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Bocabear said:
Actually the Great Dismal Swamp is in Virginia and North Carolina...but yeah, a lot of Florida is swamp...and some parts quite Dismal...I am a Florida resident...so I know...lol
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As someone who loves nature and wildlife, boat rides in the swamp are cool 🤷🏽‍♂️ get to see all kinds of animals and biotopes
 
Fox&Hound

Fox&Hound

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Stupido said:
Yeah, Maleficent seems like the perfect choice to anchor the land in. Florida is severely lacking a Sleeping Beauty experience. It would be really cool if the queue were through her castle, and she had an imprisoned Philip animatronic in it.

Ursula might be tricky cause she already has a beautiful animatronic that’s considered the best part of a ride already, but I have everything crossed that this is where we finally get some Facilier!
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If they aren't adding him to Splash, then you should not hold out hope for his appearance in a villains land either. Sadly, many people only seemed slightly okay with Tiana taking over Splash because at least it had an awesome villain. If an IP had to replace it, at least Facilier and his voodoo masks or shadow creatures could fit the big drop. But we know how that turned out...
 
Stupido

Stupido

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Fox&Hound said:
If they aren't adding him to Splash, then you should not hold out hope for his appearance in a villains land either. Sadly, many people only seemed slightly okay with Tiana taking over Splash because at least it had an awesome villain. If an IP had to replace it, at least Facilier and his voodoo masks or shadow creatures could fit the big drop. But we know how that turned out...
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I mean, they’re not putting him in Tiana’s Bayou Adventure because the ride takes place after the movie when he’s dead. They still use him during the Halloween parties, so I don’t think they’re opposed to using Facilier, he just didn’t fit into the story they’re telling in Frontierland.
 
pdude81

pdude81

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Fox&Hound said:
If they aren't adding him to Splash, then you should not hold out hope for his appearance in a villains land either. Sadly, many people only seemed slightly okay with Tiana taking over Splash because at least it had an awesome villain. If an IP had to replace it, at least Facilier and his voodoo masks or shadow creatures could fit the big drop. But we know how that turned out...
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Stupido said:
I mean, they’re not putting him in Tiana’s Bayou Adventure because the ride takes place after the movie when he’s dead. They still use him during the Halloween parties, so I don’t think they’re opposed to using Facilier, he just didn’t fit into the story they’re telling in Frontierland.
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I assume he's on the other side


...of BTMRR
 
TTA94

TTA94

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Slightly off subject and related to BTMR itself. Any chances of a refurb coming? The waterfall at the top of the lift is still not working. Or is that permanently gone?
 

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