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Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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if they put the Villains land back there it will really make the forced perspective for the Beast’s castle look that much worse…unless they build a fuller size version of the Beast’s castle as part of the land…
 
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doctornick

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
if they put the Villains land back there it will really make the forced perspective for the Beast’s castle look that much worse…unless they build a fuller size version of the Beast’s castle as part of the land…
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I’m not sure you understand where this would potentially be going. It wouldn’t be adjacent or anywhere near FL. And you certainly won’t be able to see any of this from inside Fantasyland.

This stuff - if it ever happen - is going on the north side of Rivers of America
 
Tha Realest

Tha Realest

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doctornick said:
I’m not sure you understand where this would potentially be going. It wouldn’t be adjacent or anywhere near FL. And you certainly won’t be able to see any of this from inside Fantasyland.

This stuff - if it ever happen - is going on the north side of Rivers of America
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I’m not sure any of us could confidently say where this would be going, or how big it would be. One diagram had it taking up the land behind BTMRR and Fantasyland

edit: this is the diagram I was looking at https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...or-magic-kingdom.978721/page-37#post-10385847
 
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doctornick

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EPCOT-O.G. said:
I’m not sure any of us could confidently say where this would be going, or how big it would be. One diagram had it taking up the land behind BTMRR and Fantasyland

edit: this is the diagram I was looking at https://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads...or-magic-kingdom.978721/page-37#post-10385847
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Yeah those are just people spitballing on here. From what actual insiders have indicated, the proposed potential land is much smaller. Also both @marni1971 and @ToTBellHop have mentioned that this would entail losing part of the water and part of the top island in the RoA.
 
Ghost93

Ghost93

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ToTBellHop said:
That Villain Land is way too big.
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A villain's land could never be too big. :)

Also, there is variety in Disney villains. Some like Maleficent and the Evil Queen are scary, while others like Yzma and Captain Hook and Hades are hilarious. There is a broad range of tones Disney could work with to keep the park from feeling monotonous.
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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Ghost93 said:
A villain's land could never be too big. :)

Also, there is variety in Disney villains. Some like Maleficent and the Evil Queen are scary, while others like Yzma and Captain Hook and Hades are hilarious. There is a broad range of tones Disney could work with to keep the park from feeling monotonous.
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I’m saying they won’t build a land that size.

And I agree they have plenty of attraction options.
 
yensidtlaw1969

yensidtlaw1969

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celluloid said:
The heroes typically have antagonists/conflict. That is the balance of a good story and what most attractions have.
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The idea that the villains are gonna wear out their welcome over the course of a couple 4-8 minute attractions flies in the face of . . . a lot of Disney parks history.

The villains have their own distinct vibe that clearly people love. A Villains land, if it happens, will not likely suffer from being boring.
 
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celluloid

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yensidtlaw1969 said:
The idea that the villains are gonna wear out their welcome over the course of a couple 4-8 minute attractions flies in the face of . . . a lot of Disney parks history.

The villains have their own distinct vibe that clearly people love. A Villains land, if it happens, will not likely suffer from being boring.
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And I stated prior, this is likely true vs a whole park back in the day in people's wishlist.

I would not hold your breath in 4 to 8 minute attractions though. When is the last time one of those were built at WDW?
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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celluloid said:
And I stated prior, this is likely true vs a whole park back in the day in people's wishlist.

I would not hold your breath in 4 to 8 minute attractions though. When is the last time one of those were built at WDW?
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Are you serious? Rat. MMRR. RotR. FoP. NRJ. FEA. All over 4 minutes. They actually lengthened Maelstrom. Even Cosmic Rewind is like 3:30 which is very long for a coaster. And then there’s the 15-20 min firework shows. Your negativity is over the top.
 
GhostHost1000

GhostHost1000

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Good spot for Coco and/or Encanto. Could expand current building as well or relocate the restaurant even.

Then use all that extra space in MK for
Villians
 
ToTBellHop

ToTBellHop

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GhostHost1000 said:
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Good spot for Coco and/or Encanto. Could expand current building as well or relocate the restaurant even.

Then use all that extra space in MK for
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Coco is honestly a good transition from Frontierland and they don’t need a derivative of Soarin in a park with Soarin. Encanto would be fine in WS if they were building a Colombia pavilion but they aren’t. Personally, I’d put it in Adventureland but they are looking to expand north of Big Thunder. So they’ll go there.

They put Mexico next to Norway and we don’t mind it, so I’m sure they can figure this out. Do better than Mad Tea Party next to Tomorrowland Speedway, please.

There is a lot of space in this expansion. Far too much for a Villain Land.
 

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