News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

[G00fyDad]

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Good spot for Coco and/or Encanto. Could expand current building as well or relocate the restaurant even.

Then use all that extra space in MK for
Villians

Except that Encanto took place in South America. (edited due to my ignorance. lol)

 

[correcaminos]

Except that Encanto took place in South America. Mexico is Central America.

Mexico is North America. Central is a subcontinent of N. America with countries between Mexico and Colombia. Mexico is not a part of that subcontinent

For the last time people (not you G00fy) - Encanto is not Mexican. Colombia and Mexico are vastly different. Just because a country speaks the same language doesn't mean "all look/are same" great way to kick of Hispanic Heritage Month!

 

[SirLink]

I’m saying they won’t build a land that size.

And I agree they have plenty of attraction options.

They should have they already designed them for the plot of 20k Leagues site.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Except that Encanto took place in South America. Mexico is Central America.

Good point

 

[G00fyDad]

Mexico is North America. Central is a subcontinent of N. America with countries between Mexico and Colombia. Mexico is not a part of that subcontinent

For the last time people (not you G00fy) - Encanto is not Mexican. Colombia and Mexico are vastly different. Just because a country speaks the same language doesn't mean "all look/are same" great way to kick of Hispanic Heritage Month!

I guess that was my point. It has always been one of those Mandela effect things for me I guess. I keep thinking that Mexico is part of Central America.

 

[ToTBellHop]

They should have they already designed them for the plot of 20k Leagues site.

I’d love to see Bald Mountain but doubt they would build it so close to Tiana. But it doesn’t even need to be a boat ride.

 

[correcaminos]

I guess that was my point. It has always been one of those Mandela effect things for me I guess. I keep thinking that Mexico is part of Central America.

Eh you're not alone either (and obviously my rant was not directed at you)! I had to google for fun, and it is commonly stated as part of the subcontinent. So yea, let's go with Mandela effect. Though I read recently that the vast majority didn't get his death wrong so we we named one of the weakest effects (only 13% got it wrong) for the whole lot of them

 

[Andrew C]

That Villain Land is way too big.

Should be bigger. Should be its own park.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Should be bigger. Should be its own park.

But that wouldn’t help MK’s capacity concerns.

This overall expansion, as envisioned, is huge. But not that big. I’d love a park in ten years that’s almost double its current size but then I sit back down because my Time Machine vehicle is now rotating backwards for my return to earth.

 

[castlecake2.0]

But that wouldn’t help MK’s capacity concerns.

This overall expansion, as envisioned, is huge. But not that big. I’d love a park in ten years that’s almost double its current size but then I sit back down because my Time Machine vehicle is now rotating backwards for my return to earth.

On the line of new fantasyland? Also would this be a dead end land or are they looking to connect it to near Haunted Mansion?

 

[ToTBellHop]

On the line of new fantasyland? Also would this be a dead end land or are they looking to connect it to near Haunted Mansion?

It would need an eastern attachment to the park. Probably west of HM but I don’t know. It’s certainly the easiest connection.

 

[Andrew C]

But that wouldn’t help MK’s capacity concerns.

Add encanto and coco to MK...then do a separate villains park. Done, we all win! I should be in charge.

Oh, and align the theming of the speedway (refurb) with Tron...this annoys me that it isn't occurring.

 

[castlecake2.0]

It would need an eastern attachment to the park. Probably west of HM but I don’t know. It’s certainly the easiest connection.

I’m hoping whenever this comes to be it fixes the area in front of HM as well, I think adding the path from the entrance to the tangled toilets just made the guest flow worse, that area always seems to be a cluster now.

 

[ToTBellHop]

I’m hoping whenever this comes to be it fixes the area in front of HM as well, I think adding the path from the entrance to the tangled toilets just made the guest flow worse, that area always seems to be a cluster now.

It would have to be entirely rebuilt. Hopefully they could keep HM open, however. Wouldn’t want to lose it, WDWRR, the riverboat, and TSI for a year. I presume they could build a temporary entrance to HM before starting this work. You could probably have a very narrow queue on the right, close to the front lawn.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

And I stated prior, this is likely true vs a whole park back in the day in people's wishlist.

I would not hold your breath in 4 to 8 minute attractions though. When is the last time one of those were built at WDW?

Not sure where you mentioned that - but I'm also not sure what it has to do with your suggestion about "how boring things can be with a land where there would be only antagonists in the attractions all next to each other", which is the post I was responding to.


On the second point:

Ratatouille is 5 minutes

Runaway Railway is 5 minutes

Smuggler's Run is 5 minutes

Rise of the Resistance is 4.5 if you just count the Trackless portion, which most people wouldn't

Na'vi River Journey is 5

Flight of Passage is 4.5

Frozen Ever After is 5 minutes

Mermaid is 7 minutes

. . . Most rides built at WDW in the past decade are somewhere between 4 and 8 minutes long.

 

[ppete1975]

i agree, there is no room for a hot attraction in Mexico in the current location unless its reconfigured somehow. Is it out of the question to make a ride not based on a movie in frontier land? i love BTMRR and there has to be something that can be done over that compliments it. What kind of rides will they be? dark rides, outside, more kidde rides? They definitely need rides that can handle capacity like Pirates or hunted mansion. dont need another ride like 7DMT or slinky dog.

a spinner is a given...

 

[britain]

It would have to be entirely rebuilt. Hopefully they could keep HM open, however. Wouldn’t want to lose it, WDWRR, the riverboat, and TSI for a year. I presume they could build a temporary entrance to HM before starting this work. You could probably have a very narrow queue on the right, close to the front lawn.

Just make HM reservation only, and you won’t need much queue.

 

[ppete1975]

Sky blue here! What are the odds of this? They have plenty of space to add more than a dozen new attractions.

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zero. Lets be honest they have plenty of room to expand any of the parks, even if it requires moving some infrastructure (that they own). There are tons of pads that could be created.
The only good thing that came out of the announcement is that they would even consider doing it or talking about it. Instead of it just being us saying... WHY NOT EXPAND.

The other aspect could have just been to see what the response would be.

My fear is they think just talking about what could be, is enough to quiet the disney fan naysayers... and not actually have to build anything.

"yes we know what universal is doing" BUT LOOK WHAT WE COULD DO... we wont... BUT WE COULD.. SEE DRAWINGS!!

If built... when would it be done 2032?

 

[celluloid]

Ratatouille is 5 minutes

Runaway Railway is 5 minutes

Smuggler's Run is 5 minutes

Rise of the Resistance is 4.5 if you just count the Trackless portion, which most people wouldn't

Na'vi River Journey is 5

Flight of Passage is 4.5

Frozen Ever After is 5 minutes

Mermaid is 7 minutes

. . . Most rides built at WDW in the past decade are somewhere between 4 and 8 minutes long.

IThere is quite a gap between 4 minutes and 8 minutes. That literally would double four minutes. Only one of those listed goes near 8 minutes is Mermaid. No major attractions have hit the 8 minutes running time for the ride. I am not saying it is what makes a good ride, but if you are expecting the 5-8 minute mark in most of these new attractions, you will be disappointed. I will say Rise is quite a multi part experience so obviously that is the major attraction example if you count the multi experience.

 

[ToTBellHop]

IThere is quite a gap between 4 minutes and 8 minutes. That literally would double four minutes. Only one of those listed goes near 8 minutes is Mermaid. No major attractions have hit the 8 minutes running time for the ride. I am not saying it is what makes a good ride, but if you are expecting the 5-8 minute mark in most of these new attractions, you will be disappointed. I will say Rise is quite a multi part experience so obviously that is the major attraction example if you count the multi experience.

You said “I would not hold your breath in 4 to 8 minute attractions though.” Most Disney rides that aren’t coasters are that long. Moana certainly will exceed 4 min.