News 'Beyond Big Thunder Mountain' Blue Sky concept revealed for Magic Kingdom

lazyboy97o

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But since you brought it up, the market does not know what it wants. Disney's job is to tell its guests what they want and always has been. Guests are not experiential entertainment designers. They are not entertainment professionals. Disney got along fine for decades and became the top dog in themed entertainment without the terabytes of market research data they now have at their fingers, and even with all that data, they still don't deliver what guests really want, which is a frictionless experience. The guest experience is worse than it ever has been.
One of the things that always missed in this issue of “Giving guests what they want” is the role of figurative language. People use references that are then taken by surveyors as a literal demand.
 

GhostHost1000

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Something I haven’t seen discussed much is where the panel mentioned imagine flying on the back of that animal in Coco. My first thought was Flight of Passage.

Disney creative needs to be more creative

I also think there are much better options than Coco or Encanto but…I know…it’s Disney
 

MagicHappens1971

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Something I haven’t seen discussed much is where the panel mentioned imagine flying on the back of that animal in Coco. My first thought was Flight of Passage.

Disney creative needs to be more creative

I also think there are much better options than Coco or Encanto but…I know…it’s Disney
It's all about the money, its cheaper to clone FoP tech into a Coco ride than to develop something new.
 

Hakunamatata

Le Meh
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Something I haven’t seen discussed much is where the panel mentioned imagine flying on the back of that animal in Coco. My first thought was Flight of Passage.

Disney creative needs to be more creative

I also think there are much better options than Coco or Encanto but…I know…it’s Disney
Im not certain they would want to make it as popular as FoP. Do they want that many people spending two to three hours in a queue line? Maybe the build little LaCava stands in the queue.
 

DCLcruiser

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Im not certain they would want to make it as popular as FoP. Do they want that many people spending two to three hours in a queue line? Maybe the build little LaCava stands in the queue.
VQ for years. Then you're out shopping while you wait (to the tune of whistle while you work).
 

Brer Panther

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How close is the land that this is supposed to be built on to Fantasyland? Maybe they could just use the land for another full-on Fantasyland expansion?

...then again, it'd likely include the same IPs.
 

tpoly88

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Coco doesnt belong in epcot. If you are talking about replacing gran fiesta. Theres no room. Unless you make the queue go behind the building and build onto epcot behind the pyramid. The current area and queue structure wouldnt handle it. Gran fiesta is perfect for what little space there is.
i agree, there is no room for a hot attraction in Mexico in the current location unless its reconfigured somehow. Is it out of the question to make a ride not based on a movie in frontier land? i love BTMRR and there has to be something that can be done over that compliments it. What kind of rides will they be? dark rides, outside, more kidde rides? They definitely need rides that can handle capacity like Pirates or hunted mansion. dont need another ride like 7DMT or slinky dog.
 

DisneyNeighbor

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Blue Sky here! What are the odds of this? They have plenty of space to add more than a dozen new attractions.

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doctornick

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How close is the land that this is supposed to be built on to Fantasyland? Maybe they could just use the land for another full-on Fantasyland expansion?

...then again, it'd likely include the same IPs.
Not particularly close to Fantasyland. I doubt it would even have a direct connection to FL. All indications are it would use the land on the north side of RoA and maybe the northern part of the upper island/part of RoL itself. It would connect from around Splash/BTMRR to around HM and Liberty Sq
 

sWANNISAX

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While I doubt most of this will come to fruition, I'm ok with all of these additions to MK. I'd be most excited for a villains area. They way I see this fitting is similar to how Galaxy's edge wraps from critter country into fantasyland in DL. I think Coco is a logical transition from big thunder, though I hope they come up with some new ride tech rather than adapt flight of passage. Encanto would transition will of that further into south America. Mystic manor style casita would be a cool dark ride with coco being more thrill. I see Encanto begin the back of the rivers and the jungle leading you into the villains which wouldn't be so much behind thunder mountain but rather beyond it. I would link it to the back of belle's village and the circus.

I kind of see them changing Tiana area into more of a formal New Orlean square. If we have a Mexican village, Pecos bill's food belongs there. Tiana's place can overtake pecos, since they said they will add food for her. Change the buildings look. Then Make existing frontierland more apallachi- like, sort of like wilderness lodge style and then transition west beyond new orleans. The wood bridge in front of splash mountain connecting the two parts of frontier land. It kind of follows the expansion west still. Country bears even fit better that way. Addsome pine trees to the existing frontier landscaping.
 
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celluloid

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I don't think people realize how boring things can be with a land where there would be only antagonists in the attractions all next to each other. That gets old fast.
 

castlecake2.0

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They mention staffing each time the reservation system is discussed. They can see into the future park attendance and determine staffing requirements. They can reduce or increase or reposition staff as necessary.
I get there are some specialized cast members, but there are plenty of roles that are similar enough to allow for moving personnel from one park to the other. Guest Relations does not require additional training, as talking down an irate parent is the same.
That’s not really how any of this works.
 

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